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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 02:21 [#01682750]
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FZ!
yes, to celebrate the return of my lovely frank zappa avatar, made 100% from real panda skin, I decided to upload this video of Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention doing something rather crazy in 1974.
This is a song called Approximate. Frank describes its unusual characteristics at the beginning, so i won't go into that.
I will say, however, that it's very, very entertaining (esp. frank's mimicking in the singing part) and, regardless of its jazz/avant garde-craziness, very, very enjoyable music. I really, really dig the melody.
I'd urge everyone and anyone to get this :) I just hope its bandwidth isn't exceeded by the time vpusha comes on.
Enjoy!
yousendit link (~50 mb)
oink!
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-08-04 02:30 [#01682754]
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FankZ ! you've convinced me ! haev ae najs daej !
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 03:12 [#01682786]
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thanks. any thoughts on it?
i'm disappointed this hasn't generated more interest. it's real music, performed by extremely talented musicians LIVE. sheesh!
maybe it's just cause it's morning.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-08-04 03:14 [#01682787]
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ah! i can't see redrum without that avatar!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 03:18 [#01682790]
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i can't see tridenti without that "i'm a special boy" avatar!
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-04 03:20 [#01682791]
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It has generated 50MB of d/l, and so far I wanted to listen to the radio, it's like this: download=no radio. But now I'm going to watch Family Guy so I'll start the download. I'm interested in Zappa since I know very little of him...
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-08-04 03:21 [#01682792]
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nah.. i'll put that only in a special occasions.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-08-04 03:40 [#01682797]
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any thoughts .....?
it's GREAT !!! hahaha .....anyone should see it. Zappa's amazing. those crazy 70s.....
i could get only about 34mb - and it just stops at some point. is that it ?
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-04 03:54 [#01682800]
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i like it, wierdeness factor: 10, he was a man with a vision.
Does humor belong in music?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-08-04 04:02 [#01682801]
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no, restart your download dude.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-04 04:04 [#01682802]
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Once I saw him perfofming with quite a large ensemble of musicians; there was a woman blowing a large tube (digeridoo?) into a tank filled with water (thus making water-fart sounds), and a guy in the back was reading a letter to some magazine written by a subscriber, who tried to get his scrotum pierced. They would played some chaotic passages, the guy read the letter, and so on...
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 04:10 [#01682807]
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glad the both of you enjoy it :)
obara, hope you have the full thing. it ends abruptly after the dancing section, when zappa hums the beginning of the melody of the next song (obviously "Cosmik Debris").
If anyone has the whole video of this televised concert, i'd love it.. but i know i'm asking in the wrong place. just on the off chance.
i have the video for Inca Roads from this performance too, it's great, but just when frank starts soloing, the video changes to some crazy plasticine stop-animation, and.... augh. it's just kinda head-wrecking and annoying.
i wanna see zappa and george duke soloing, not some acid head's bizarre plasticine movie... :/
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-04 04:20 [#01682820]
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Is there any chance you'll upload this second video????
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 04:24 [#01682823]
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yea i was going to bring it in on my iPod as a treat for people who liked the first video, but last night when I watched it I saw the gay plasticine movie (it's actually pretty neat, but i've expressed why i don't like it already) and it put me in a bad mood, so i didn't put it on the ipod.
i could do it tomorrow i guess
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-04 04:34 [#01682832]
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I'd be happy if you do this
*waits*
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-04 04:35 [#01682833]
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I'd be happy if you do this
*waits*
[??]
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-08-04 04:43 [#01682846]
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yes, i'm re-downloading it :) i wanna see the whole thing, i'm curious how the lady will mouth her xylophone [?] part.
i'm gonna search p2p for some more FZ videos tonight, no doubt.
gvarek_ : just press F5, Zioom ;]
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2005-08-04 06:39 [#01682898]
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Have you seen the video to City Of Tiny Lites? It's super.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-08-04 08:45 [#01683010]
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Thanks redrum! I am totally grabbing this! This will be great!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 08:49 [#01683015]
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you have NO idea... :D:D:D
"but the rest is..... every person for themselves.."
"every person for themselves - huh huh huh - shit dawwwwg you is one crazy cracka, frank!" :D:D:D:D
that flautist is mad. i wish that's what he said. i should find out his name.... he does nice miming accompanying the really fast & high pitched vocals in "montana"... which were originally sung by Cher and two other women, on the album. there's a bit of trivia for ya.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-08-04 08:52 [#01683018]
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ill watch this later, makes me wanna get my zappa vynl out, i have a load of original pressings in the attic... if only my turntable worked
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-08-04 08:53 [#01683021]
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HAHAHH!!! That was awesome!
I've always wanted to see that preformed! Thats awesome!!!
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:D!!!!!!!!!!!!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 08:54 [#01683023]
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:D:D:D:D:D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-08-04 08:55 [#01683024]
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Montana is up there in my top three!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 02:24 [#01684100]
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still has some bandwidth left...
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nacmat
on 2005-08-05 02:26 [#01684101]
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I have never heard any frank zappa
[hides]
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-05 03:04 [#01684129]
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redrum (yyy), have you got the other Zappa video for your Asian friend today??
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 03:08 [#01684141]
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well download the movie. it's not a great starting point, in fact it's a pretty shit starting point, but it's an interesting and funny piece of music nevertheless.
gvarek - i'm afraid not.... :( sorry
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-05 03:20 [#01684160]
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Crap, this is unfortunate. Your impassive statement convinced to watch "Felicity" again.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-05 03:44 [#01684193]
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Thanks for the link it was cool....the bird on the vibraphone was lightning quick!
I haven't heard much Zappa before, something I must sort out, I hear his stuff is quite rude. :)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 03:51 [#01684208]
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:D! yes Ruth Underwood is a legend.
Some of his lyrics are quite profane yea, but tbh I don't listen to many of his songs. I find his songs pretty shit - the music suffers too.. His instrumental jazz rock and classical stuff.. basically the instrumental stuff.. is just mindblowing. pick up a copy of hot rats or the grand wazoo or waka/jawaka some time. deadly stuff
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-05 04:04 [#01684234]
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Im listening to a documentary about him that I found on Zappa.com
Didn't realise how experimental he was, there is some good stuff being played.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2005-08-05 06:02 [#01684336]
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Question from my g/f (which I can't answer).......
Is FZ still alive?
(she liked the video..... cheers Redrum)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 06:15 [#01684344]
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Ah glad she enjoyed it :)
No, unfortunately he died of prostate cancer on December 4th 1993. :(
A dedicated smoker all his life... :/
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2005-08-05 06:18 [#01684346]
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Damn.... :(
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 06:23 [#01684349]
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Yeah :/ it's a terrible pity.. Even though i don't enjoy much (if any) of his stuff made after the 70s.
He got big into "Synclavier" composition in the 80s, culminating in a gigantic, and rather difficult, work in the early 90s, "Civilisation Phase III". A Synclavier is a now-obsolete computer-based composition tool and orchestra.
I'd love to have him sat down with a copy of drukQs, or even *any* of the weirder music discussed on this forum. I imagine he would have loved it - it shares so many similarities with his music: polyrhythms, be-bop melodies (i always thought acid melodies are kinda scattish)... and also the obsession with "sculpting" sound which he held.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-05 06:29 [#01684352]
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I always wondered what, for example Beethoven, or Mozart would say if thay have heard Suarepusher or Autechre?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 06:32 [#01684355]
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pure rubbish, i imagine. Mozart certainly. Music had strict conventions and rules back then and that sort of music doesn't comply with them.
I'd say the lack of melody would piss them off the most -- or even, let's say in the case of squarepusher, the melody would do just the same.
Remember, jazz was only born at the turn of the 20th century.. :o
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-05 06:44 [#01684360]
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I agree, but not completly, remember also that they were pure musical geniuses, they had this special "third eye", maybe it would allow them also to foresee the future of music. IDM is extreme, but I'm sure they would enjoy some of early Oldfield's or Vangelis' works, or John Cage-alike music. This is pure nonsense speculation.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 06:49 [#01684362]
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Beethoven perhaps, since he was an innovator.. his music was considered ugly and horribly unbearable while he was alive. Mozart just stuck to the rules Haydn had passed onto him and used his genius to create a huge amount of work for such a small life-span.
I doubt it for both of them though. There's too much of a gap. Far too much. When you grow up in that sort of world, with that sort of classical or romantic music being *ALL* you hear, apart from the occasional traditional song, that's the perception your brain has of what music is.
The music we're talking about - whether it's Cage or Vangelis or Squarepusher or Philip Glass - is far, far too different, in my opinion, from the music of their time for it to be considered music.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-05 07:09 [#01684381]
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Nice, we should make a seperete thread about this issue. Considering all fields of art activity. Example: Polish romantic poetry from XIX is stil very much alive in our awareness, and still used as a reference point (even though very modified) by modern poets. The question is of course: does it works "backwards"? I belive this is some mutation of alternative version of history entitled: what would happen if Hitler had won the war etc, etc... Playing with time....
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-08-05 08:23 [#01684463]
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thanks for the video, it was as entertaining as frank zappa. was.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-05 15:39 [#01684998]
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thanks for that... I'm one of the bigger Zappa fans around these parts, not that I've ever mentioned it or anything.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-08-05 15:45 [#01685003]
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I have a little something called Acid En Regalia on my hard-drive :)
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staz
on 2005-08-05 15:53 [#01685009]
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thanks for this
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 16:09 [#01685020]
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You're very welcome, all of you.
IMPAKT.
PLEASE. EMAIL. PLEEEEASE! :D
i'm rabidly foaming at the mouth!
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-08-05 16:22 [#01685036]
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Very well, the email is almost finished sending, but be warned : it might be the most absurd piece of detuned acid madness you've ever heard :D
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-05 16:23 [#01685040]
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yesssss! just received it! downloading over 56k now! Thanks very much, mate!
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-08-05 16:27 [#01685045]
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You're welcome!
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oyvinto
on 2005-08-05 16:32 [#01685049]
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how about yousendingit?
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