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Hi, there are a lot of very talented musicians here. I was wondering who's actually going to school for it or looking to make a career out of it? I need some help and have some questions for you. I'm thinking of attending , for this course here . If you can take a peek at that page there... are you in anything like this, or do you know anybody in anything like this? Not going into too much detail, I have a good opportunity here and I need to make a decision FAST. Keep in mind the extent of my formal music training was a couple of years of guitar lessons with accompanying theory... I wasn't a stellar student because I slacked off with aplomb, but I just wasn't pushed, I'm not a bad musician by any means. Do you think I'd need some more theory training, would I be in over my head if I went into this kind of thing without, say, piano lessons? (Regardless of what I do, I'm going to take piano lessons soon). Course I messed around with Reason and Fruityloops but only for a few hours (any1 remember my ''Piano tune'', I still remember that faggy melody!) This is an in-depth course but the dean says they ease you into programs and they're designed for people with little or no experience to jump right in and learn. But he WOULD say that, wouldn't he? $$$ This is a pretty nice school, great equipment and they give you a ''free'' laptop. Last year I ALMOST went there for their network technician program, but I pussed out... not that I'm not capable or interested in that stuff, but I hate commitment. What do you think? Any advice or insight? I'd also like to hear about your formal training/schooling and how it's going and how you like it, I'm really interested in this stuff and I need some help. I'm going down there on Friday to look around, but I want to ask some people who know. Maybe Zeus. <3 8===D |
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I don't want to be in a rock band or anything, but I like the spectrum of career prospects, and how the overall experience of this thing sounds and looks. |
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i didnt read but i like you very much Mr Ophecks |
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Do it man |
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Ohhhhhhhh Ophecks, is this forr you? I feel i know you too well. Shit, I'm being negative. Go forr it. You can only trry. |
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I've joined and drropped out of lots of things, it's done me no harrm, just given me something else to add to my 'hate list' |
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As forr music schooling, well, i trried to learrn to be a musician and it didn't worrk out, because i was shit. If you rreally love music in that sense, it's perrfect isn't it? But only you know that. |
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You're right, I should just give it a shot. I tend to get into stuff expecting it to be a long-term thing... I even wasted two whole YEARS in a BA program. I should have quit after a month. I'm interested in being involved in the business... maybe not as a musician, but I won't rule it out. I've never tried... that's the biggest worry, I don't even know if I'm not capable of doing this thing because I've never tried and never made an attempt to write a song/compose anything for more than like 5 minutes. I guess I should probably try, yeah. But still, I'm going to inform my decision and I'm trying to do it fast. I was talking to the head honcho there about this program and I impressed him with my taste and knowledge (and he impressed me) but that doesn't mean I can compose or play or program or have a head for the business! |
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i'm currently doing a degree in music production, and it's great so far! 24/7 music - going into college to do music, who could ask for more? :) most courses like these don't expect applicants to have lots of musical training, they tend to accomodate people of diffeing musical abilty. on my course we had a few tests to make sure everyone was at an adequate level. the areas of knowledged required were: - time signatures - rhythm values (crotchet, quaver, etc...) - basic keys / scales (i.e. major, minor, perhaps a few blues scales) - chords and chord shapes. - intervals (minor 2nd, 4ths, 7ths, etc...) - understanding of the words melody, rhythm, texture, form, instrumentation. - and maybe a few more smaller things. basically being able to read basic music is required. this 10month course seems very similar to my first year which i have just completed. if you want to get a headstart read up on miking techniques, digital audio theory and midi theory. my lecturers bum these 3 books/authors: by francis rumsey & tim mccormick by william moylan href="http://books.elsevier.com/us/bookscat/search/details. asp?country=United+States&community=focalbooks&txtSearch=50 311&searchfield=ESSubjectCode&imprint=&operator=%3D&textboo k=&highlight=0&display=collapse&isbn=0240516435&srccode=FSO &ref=&mscssid=BFRAPJ7TDPRB8LL982E9JM4V8XMK730A"target=blank the digital aud |
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href="http://books.elsevier.com/us/bookscat/search/details. asp?country=United+States&community=focalbooks&txtSearch=50 311&searchfield=ESSubjectCode&imprint=&operator=%3D&textboo k=&highlight=0&display=collapse&isbn=0240516435&srccode=FSO &ref=&mscssid=BFRAPJ7TDPRB8LL982E9JM4V8XMK730A"target=blank the digital aud is that the new analord track? |
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I'm doing a course at Bathspa which is creative music tech. mainly focusing on sound design and not recording. and MAX/MSP etc. so thats all good. i want to make pop when im older. and make advert music. and wooshy sounds. but no theroy for me. or music instruments. why? i dont like them. so there. its always silly 'rockers' or old post tennage 'rockers' who come on these courses anyway. |
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aww last one fucked up.... by john watkinson |
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Excellent, thanks for the replieiee. most courses like these don't expect applicants to have lots of musical training, they tend to accomodate people of diffeing musical abilty. So I've been told and read... but of course I'm still self-concious that there will be some savants there or at least people with way more experience than me and I'll feel all wimpy and shtuff. But I guess that's the point of... ''learning''. I guess you plan on going into music production? What did you plan on doing when you were going into it? Seems like there's quite a few outcomes. And have you met any hot chicks with good taste? Thanks for the links, I'll check them out. Maybe I'm even checking them out as we speak. |
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''conscious'', I meant. Fuck. Fuck. |
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i can't really specify what i want to go into, i'm trying to keep my options open :) production would be amazing, but probably unlikely. no hot chicks on my course, well maybe 1, and the fine ones are on the music studies course and all play flute! :) |
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i can think of a few things that you could do with those flutes! : ) Hehe. |
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I`d like to do a sound design thing but all the music schools I checked out in Canada suck. Cept there will try to find it and email it too you! Being a New Brunswick boy, I have almost all the same options as you as it comes to music schools, and I `ve really looked into a shit load. I was very close to going to music technique in Montreal because they had a music business part in the course, explained how to make a business plan and all that stuff I have no idea how to do. The thing that stopped me is that I don`t think I want music to be my job. I love music making music too much, I dont want to put myself in a possition where I hate making music yeah know? My friend put it this way ``If you are an astronaut after 5 years it`s just a job``. I think it is important to do what you love doing but I think for a job you should really find a JOB you like doing. It`s like eating your favorite food everyday you know? I am starting data base programming next week at a college, which is a huge step for this high school drop out drunk. I think I am making the right move. I have a 12`` coming out in a month on a record label , a 7 inch, a cd, and now there are plans for other stuff now. I am living my music life, but am doing my plan b shit. I`d say if you want the knowledge do it, if you want to have fun do it. I didn`t do it because I figured I would being doing 2 years at a call center to pay back my tuition. Fuck that noise. The whole fun of making music is learning yourself, for me anyway. I`ve heard of a lot of guys going to those sound engineering schools and the whole course was just micing drums and learning faders heh. A max MSP course would be really fucking cool, job or not, I would sign up for that. Anyway I am going to fuck off now ... |
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All I know, is schools that try to rush you through a one year program with a degree at the end, are rarely there to teach you high quality stuff. They are kind of like assembly line schools to mass produce students. You want a school that holds you in for a couple years, helping you develop your skills and tallent instead of just showing you stuff and expecting you to understand. My advice would be to shop around a bit more. A longer timeframe is more time and money, but with the kind of carreer you could get out of it, its probly better to have a more established school to your credit. Schools like that one that you linked to are always popping up, and shutting down, and usually the students don't have any warning when they go out of business. So watch out. |
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"(any1 remember my ''Piano tune'', I still remember that faggy melody!)" Yes, and if I remember correctly, my girlfriend of the time's luke-warm reception of it was a contributing factor to your temporary retirement from making music. |
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Oxygenfad- I hear you, this is why I made the topic, I need some sobering doses of reality. I would hate to come out of this and get the wrong kind of job in the music field. My blood boils when I'm within earshot of standard adult alternative radio... I'd Ian Curtis myself if I had to work with that stuff, as douchey as that sounds. Job security would be an issue too. Good luck with the database programming, that's a smart choice. I was chatting with Bill Gates the day about not enough people going into fields like that. Well not really chatting with him, per se, but I read it on torrentspy. Taxidermist- I hear you too. Information overload and it's also quite expensive, but I can't really pick and choose whatever I want, I've dug a deep hole for myself through being a complete and utter headcase and my options are very limited. But I am going to take your advice and shop around, I'm still shopping, this was just the most attractive option so far (I was going to shop around with or without your advice though :-p, but hey it's good advice). With regards to the school, it's been around in the same place as long as I can remember and is pretty high quality, I don't think it's shady or a gamble. I've been there and was impressed, pretty respected school. Now the PROGRAM is another story, that's a gamble... Kerry- naw brah, that wasn't it! I liked that piano tune, it was the only one I liked! I spent like an hour tops on all that stuff anyway, the biggest factor in me quitting Fruitylooping was a harddrive crash that wiped out ''new'' stuff and the same character flaws that have led me to totally fuck up my secondary education. Anyway thanks ev'ry1 for the help so far. I'm looking at some other stuff, too. Maybe some sort of journalism thing at a different college. |
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I remember I quite liked the piano track (although I can't remember it: when I try I remember a xanpha remix I did with a piano in from around that time). I unfortunately lost my copy of the mp3 (which I had till last year) in a disk crash on my machine. |
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