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Everyone here seems to talk about certain albums being "more accessible" than others. (ie everyone says, "get Amber before Confield, its more accessible") Does it really make a difference? I would never tell anyone to get Amber first, I think whats really exciting about Autechre are the albums like Lp5 and Confield. Why do you guys/girls think it makes more sense to start with simpler stuff? (im just curious) I say get right to the meat! |
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if you start with the best, everything else can be somewhat pale in comparison. |
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I started off buying Confield first...AND I AM PISSED AND UNCERTAIN OF MY FUTURE ACTIONS BECAUSE OF THIS!!! |
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...usually the folks describes what they have listened to before and we goes from there... |
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I like the idea of going full on right away, but in reality a lot of people are not going to like it because ae sounds so different from anything else people are likely listening to. When I first heard Tri Rep, I thought it sounded like comlete noise and couldn't feel anything from it. If I had heard anything later than that I wouldn't have ever got into ae. I burned Tri Rep because my friend insited and I though it was quite interesting as a novelty, like "what a fucked up shitty sound, I should have a copy for shits and giggles." But after hearing a few times all the way through I started to get pulled into the deep melodies underneath the sounds that I thought were random static at first, and we lived happily ever after in never never land. |
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familiarity helps accept the newer stranger elements a lot more easily than landing in the middle of entirely alien domain for majority of people.. structured rhythms are more likely to coax fans of standard 4/4 to explore the other elements that layerd on top of them.. |
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''Accessibility'' is a weird term... being inaccessible seems to denote ''creativity, uniqueness''... yet no band is as accessible as the Beatles, and nobody has ever had as much creativity as those beautiful bastards. Confield is fucking overrated, they have MUCH better stuff. Start with their inaccesssible album first, it'll make Chiastic Slide seem THAT much better. |
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i think with autechre, i bought ep7 first and the latter stuff. when i bought incunbula, i was kind of like "this sucks" just because the latter stuff sounded so much more complex. |
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It just seems weird to me, I listened to Amber and Incnabula(sp?) in the record store and I hated both of them (so I thought I hated AE for like 6 months doh!) And then I heard Chiastic Slide and Tri Repetae++ and I was blown away. Maybe the "easier" releases are better for people who arent into this kind of music, but I think there is definitely something to be gained from going straight for the interesting stuff. |
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latter stuff = better |
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disagree. |
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I always like hearing the bands I care for in a chronological progression and see for my self how their sounds ideas concepts equipments etc evolve/devolve..that's the way it makes more sense to me and it eliminates the question of is the earlier work better than later etc..to me every release leads to the next.. |
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yeah tao, like phob said, it's very much dependant on the person's listening history. |
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yeah i like the idea of listening to a group i like gradually, from early work to ending work...but i'm impatient and don't care |
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true some artists are not worth that much effort... |
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Perhaps one of one main likes about *DM is the fact that it's a process & and always a work in progress... Sure, CD's are released as one off events, like a snapshot of the bands current leanings; unless you look at the whole canon & get some idea of the developments & evolution over time then I think it's tricky to fully understand the a lot of the later works without reference to the earlier ones.... |
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exactly |
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Right. I appreciate an artist more after I've heard the earlier stuff. Evolution is beautiful, on the mass or the personal scale. |
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which reminds me who here likes "theory of evolution" the bloody things like a history lesson in IDM aint it..and brilliant the stuff's so fresh even after 10 or so years |
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it's a relative term... something is accessible to me if I like it with my first listen... it doesn't make it any better or worse then anything else necessarily, but I just like it right off... whereas an inaccessable album takes some time... like SAWII for me is really inaccessible... I like most of it, but it's taken a long time... |
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call me a heretic but i mostly find SAWII easy listening and boring |
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Burn that heretic at the stake! |
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me as the log roll witch? funny that! |
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I find SAWII so inaccessible, and I found Kid A so accessible whereas everyone was screaming about how inaccessible it is... it's totally relative... |
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hmm I am coming from Industrial background where these superquietambientnoodling artists were all the rage for a while with bands like godflesh and scorn churning out cd's after cd's of side projects with nary a pulse...and they bored me to death and I heard somewhere that SAWII was RDJ's spoof of that genre...he's pretty spot on but it still bores me shit less |
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