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chocolate factory: 1971 vs 2005
 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-29 08:11 [#01678313]
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IMO the original version is far better from the new one.
the original oompa-loompas had orange and green stripes. the
new ones are all casted by the same actor, are digitaly
shorten instead of the original dwarves and wear monocolored
vynil colants.
the new photography is realy dark and not show how amazing
the chocolate waterfall is as it was in the original.

everything in this new version is crap - apart from the
television room wich contains stanley kubrick's space
odyssey.


 

offline hAnkyPhexTwin from Tucson, Arizona (United States) on 2005-07-29 10:05 [#01678486]
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At least for me I keep the tendency of not comparing those
two movies. I was aware before I saw the movie that if I
compare them I will not fully enjoy anything because I’m
too focused on nitpicking or disappointed in one or the
other since it “didn’t do justice”. I personally like
them both on their separate terms. The original was a great
musical piece that I thoroughly enjoyed…especially the
slow pacing song of ‘cheer up Charlie’. The new one, I
viewed it as a regular Tim Burton film, dark and odd in its
own way. I liked how they did more character development on
Wonka’s part – even if some of it was not from the book.


 

offline asymmhead from south pasadena (United States) on 2005-07-29 10:12 [#01678492]
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i'm a fan of the old one... but i'm satisfied with the new
one as well... i too went to the theatre to not nit pick the
film... before the movie was released i didn't like the
oompa loompa(s)... but in the movie told their story quite
well and i learned to like them/him. through out the movie.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-07-29 10:51 [#01678526]
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i didn't like the new one.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-07-29 10:52 [#01678527]
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i just wanted to say i


 

offline colani from Retarded (France) on 2005-07-29 10:55 [#01678531]
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i_x_ten I **** you


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-07-29 11:39 [#01678583]
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2005 totally kciksd arse, im buying that one
1971 was nicey


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-07-29 11:45 [#01678590]
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you what me?


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-29 12:25 [#01678632]
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****


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-07-29 12:35 [#01678642]
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i'll give you ****


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-07-29 12:37 [#01678643]
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**** = <3


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-29 12:38 [#01678644]
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thanks mr know


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-07-29 12:39 [#01678646]
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ahah


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-29 16:13 [#01678786]
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just got back from the cinema,and the 2005 version does
indeed kick arse.allso had a popcorn fight which was nice.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-29 16:29 [#01678795]
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before his death, roald dahl criticised the 1971 film 'Willy
Wonka', saying that it didn't capture the darkness of the
book.

does the new release capture the darkness?

in the original film, i only sensed the darkness during the
song on the boat, in the tunnel. Willy Wonka [the character]
just seemed uninterested, rather than dark.

"not a speck of light is showing
so the danger must be growing
are the fires of Hell a-glowing
is the grisly reaper mowing?

yes, the danger must be growing
for the rowers keep on rowing
and they're certainly not showing
any signs that they are slowing!"

"pure imagination" is a fantastic song.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-29 16:40 [#01678798]
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its darker and closer to the book,but you really need to go
and see it for yourself.go now and report back in a couple
of hours with review.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-07-29 16:49 [#01678803]
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I grew up reading Roald Dahl, and when I watched the 70s
film I hated it.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-29 16:56 [#01678807]
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Yeah, the old one is much better. The quirky humor is
lacking. I think Gene Wilder is missed. Perhaps someone
like John Lithgow would have been a better Wonka.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-29 17:10 [#01678810]
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if i do see this newer version, i think i will enjoy it's
differences from the original.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-07-29 19:42 [#01678844]
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I've had time to ponder, and I've decided I don't like the
new one very much. I didn't like the Willy Wonka character
very much, just seemed silly and that was that.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-07-29 19:44 [#01678849]
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one too many very much


 

offline NOTJocco from NOTJocco on 2005-07-29 21:33 [#01678923]
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Haven't seen the new one yet.

Don't ban me.


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-29 21:40 [#01678942]
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i seen the trailer. It looked rubbish. Is johny depp well
over rated?


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2005-07-29 23:12 [#01678994]
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the original is better.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-30 01:53 [#01679001]
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Yes, I'm almost certain John Lithgow would have made a
better Wonka. He has that theatrical Gene Wilder thing
going. I think Depp is cool, but way too reveared by
everyone. Like he's some god.


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-08-03 06:09 [#01681986]
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The original is dark as fuck, like Gene Wilder goes on mad
rants with subtle messages about peadophilia and that! Watch
it again and you will see what I mean. I havenae seen da nu
one yet, coz I've not been to da flix in ages!

x


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2005-08-03 10:55 [#01682127]
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i heard marylin manson was being considered for the role of
wonka...


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-08-03 11:21 [#01682152]
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uh i heard that also, long time ago.
wicked


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-08-03 11:28 [#01682156]
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i didn't think the new one was dark at all, and the umpa
lumpa songs made me want to leave the theater.

^ true story.


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-08-03 16:08 [#01682528]
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what was that Mike TV metal song at television room?
it is truly leavable.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-08-04 08:54 [#01683022]
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Tim burton did it with "Planet of the Apes" and does it with
Wonka too. Sure it looked good, had all the basics
ingredient sof the origional and has the benefit of modern
effects but ultimately... wheres the magic?


I could nitpick all day... the lack of songs, no lickable
wallpaper, no charlie-in-the-soda-room scene, crap dialogue,
un-freaked out parents, no buildup, wonka revealed too
early, crap parents, charlie cast badly, needless Wonka
backstory. But i won't.


In the end, the film just couldn't use its big budget to
weave together a disneyesque magical story and atmosphere.
Pants.



 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-08-04 09:02 [#01683031]
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I mean, fuck, "agustus gloop, agustus gloop, a really
big nincompoop"
... i don't know if that was taken
verbatim from the book or what, but the song sounded like it
was written by fucking morans. And, Depp's rediculous
facial expressions.. oh i don't know, really hokey imho.
totally lacked class.


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2005-08-04 09:30 [#01683083]
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i thought it was pretty good. i felt like i was seeing a new
movie, but i knew the story already. i didn't connect to the
orginial as much as i thought i would. the oompa loompas
didn't sit right for some reason. disappointed about the
fizzy lifting drink omission.


 


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