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illfates
from space (United States) on 2005-07-24 22:57 [#01674317]
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i wrote this article a few days ago. indulge:
reperceiver . shtml
quote: "The value of any individuals input into the hive mind will not be weighted by money or sexual desire, rather on terms of the Reperceiver itself—information. In the quest for deeper understanding, art and communication that most vibrantly reflect the complex harmonies of the vibrational universe and it’s proportionate scales will be of most value."
feedback appreciated
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-24 23:07 [#01674323]
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I didn't read the whole article but, if your quote is anything to go buy, you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.
sorry if that came off harsh.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-25 03:37 [#01674360]
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Fucked if i'm reading this. Your grammar is atrocious.
The "on" in the topic title is superfluous. You've left out an apostrophe in the first line of the quote, at "individual's" and added a rogue apostrophe in the penultimate line at "it's proportionate.." (should be "its")
You also switch prepositions in the first sentence: weighted by money or sexual desire, rather on......
I don't subject myself to reading shoddily-written texts, thanks very much.
The subject matter and style in which you've exposed it are also off-putting, it doesn't seem like you've done research into the subject and instead have put together an article to have the effect of projecting an image of yourself as superintelligent.
I just clicked the article link and the first two sentences, right:
The all too common defeatist outlook requires intervention. A force in the form of another person revealing or as existing conditions lying dormant in the brain combining to bestow revelation must be present if the defeatist is to change and learn to live in bliss.
Jesus christ.
Intervention in the form of what? Another person revealing what? (reveal is a transitive verb, you've done a big no-no here)
Also the "as" is superfluous as well.
Although I'm known as a grammar nazi here, I've made a point of stopping correcting people's grammar on the message board - I don't want to get shot down for this post: the only reason I'm writing it is that you've put your article up here for people to read and respond to.. and this is my response.
Do you really expect people to read this stuff? It's impossible. Learn how to write.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-25 03:44 [#01674364]
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Jesus man, I'm sure there are plenty brilliant essayists that need an editor to have their work checked. Lighten up. I'm not saying this particular essay is brilliant, of course.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-25 03:48 [#01674367]
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Jesus man, I'm sure there are plenty brilliant essayists that need an editor to have their work checked.
I'd wholeheartedly disagree with that.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-25 03:48 [#01674368]
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words, words, words
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-25 04:18 [#01674383]
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You are correct in that I might have misused the word 'essayist', here.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-07-25 04:19 [#01674385]
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come out and live in a religious community in a beautiful place out in the country.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-07-25 06:34 [#01674483]
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Or not.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-25 08:40 [#01674610]
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Whacky, I'm playing that right now. What are the chances?
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-25 08:41 [#01674611]
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Redrum, are you a fan of old english?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-25 08:43 [#01674616]
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Not particularly.. I find it interesting, but I have little or no knowledge of it. Why do you ask?
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-25 08:44 [#01674618]
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I thought you might be interested in linguistics
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-25 08:45 [#01674619]
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I'm studying computational linguistics..
i hate how this comes up every time i criticise someone's grammar :/
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-25 08:46 [#01674624]
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Its google time.
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gay_dad
from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-07-25 08:49 [#01674629]
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I like Redrum's commitment to improving our use of language, it's a positive thing and we all would do well to pay heed.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-25 08:52 [#01674633]
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Thank you! It's nice to see someone occasionally seeing it in a positive light.
Mertens: if you were going to google for info about comp. ling., I might suggest going to wikipedia instead, they have a comprehensive section on linguistics, and indeed computational linguistics
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big
from lsg on 2005-07-25 08:54 [#01674638]
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redrum rules
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-25 08:55 [#01674640]
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This is why redrum had to keep saying pardon when I was speaking :D
He couldn't understand my mumbling. OH SHIT! I'm CX! I mumble!
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-25 08:55 [#01674641]
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Ace
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-25 08:57 [#01674644]
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hahaha! ahh i'm never going to live my mumbling down, will i :D
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-07-25 08:58 [#01674647]
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more like computer cunnilingus
HAHA
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-25 08:59 [#01674648]
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cunning lynguists
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-07-25 09:00 [#01674651]
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OH MY GOD
LAZY_AMAZING
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-25 09:12 [#01674656]
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Neither will I. I was mimbling like a cunt :D
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-25 09:16 [#01674660]
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Saw that on Conan O'brien once. Some old lady was showing it off.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2005-07-25 20:20 [#01675375]
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thank you grammar nazi. i'm just trying to suggest that a computer is going to be our judge at some time in the not so distant future.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-26 02:12 [#01675469]
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i'm with redrum on this one. the thread title made me chuckle.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-26 02:18 [#01675470]
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It should be noted however that it would be grammmmmmmatically possible for the "on" to not be superfluous, depending on the content of the article.
ie. the article could be about REGARDING superintelligence, not ABOUT superintelligence... however you stated you did not read the article and therefore would not be able to make this distinction.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-26 02:20 [#01675472]
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Personally, I think this article should be submitted to slashdot.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-26 02:25 [#01675476]
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hmm. good observation..
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-26 02:30 [#01675479]
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I suppose it's better than the time I classified spiders as "insects".
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-26 03:32 [#01675539]
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ha. good thing you still remember.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-26 03:38 [#01675546]
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yeah he's right, but it's nonsense to consider for a moment that the read was ABOUT regarding superintelligence.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-07-26 04:41 [#01675617]
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did you research any of this, or is it just from your 'gut' feeling on the matter - basically is this fact or just your thoughts? you dont really give any sources, you mention just one - and exactly what time frame do you give until the coming of the reperceiver? its in its infant stages now? in what form now? surely you dont mean the internet!
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-07-26 04:58 [#01675629]
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That has got to be the biggest load of pretentious wank I've ever had the misfortune to read!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-07-26 05:00 [#01675630]
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hey man I have to VIOLENTLY disagree with your avatar! Tom Weir is awesome and to accuse him of being a crackhead makes my eyes fill with tears! FOR SHAME! :*[
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-07-26 05:05 [#01675631]
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Sorry, but he is! I saw him free-basing with a hooker outside Glasgow Central train station! I have photos to back it up.
To think he used to just go roamin' in the gloamin' too.
Sniff....
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-07-26 05:10 [#01675633]
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Your allegations have left me stunned... I cannot bring myself to believe that Tower of Touring is a low-down punk.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-26 05:14 [#01675634]
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who's tom weir?
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-07-26 05:22 [#01675637]
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Conclusive proof!!
Crack Head
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-07-26 06:07 [#01675692]
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I cannot argue with clear photographic proof like that - I'm deeply saddened.
RedRum - Tom Weir hosts the 3rd best ever TV series, Weir's Way -- I think it might only be shown in Scotland, not sure.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-26 06:08 [#01675693]
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aha. ok. never heard of it.
He looks like quite a character.
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2005-07-26 16:05 [#01676184]
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"did you research any of this, or is it just from your 'gut'
feeling on the matter"--
it's half and half. i'm sorry about the typo in the thread title, but what do you do. hehe, wmw you caught that too-- i figure, hell, this is on "regarding superintelligence".. kind of a coincidence.
i've been stuck on the idea that emotionally we are the same person, all of us on this planet, kicking energy around in the form of words attached to dopamine and other chemicals in our heads. when i found out that a bunch of really smart people like feynman and feigenbaum and kurzweil were predicting futures supportive of this idea, i got a twist in my knickers and had to write some things down.
go research artificial intelligence and the future of computing and see what you find.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-07-26 16:18 [#01676191]
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The very fact you felt you had to commit your ramblings to an ill conceived, poorly researched, essay littered with pompous diction indicates that, while you may have enthusiasm, you lack true understanding.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-07-26 16:19 [#01676192]
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And that comes from a Professor of Hard Living so you cannot argue with him
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-07-26 16:24 [#01676195]
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Yes, indeed it is true I prepared that post for the dumb scouser. However I am sure my own feelings mirror those energy kicking words attached to dopamine and other chemicals in his head. After all emotionally we are all the same.
Kindest Regards,
Prof. H. Living Hard Living University, MA.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-07-26 16:31 [#01676203]
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well it's especially unreadable for someone whose mother tongue isn't english, and isn't used to common mistakes. i read "individuals" as "individuals". didn't make much sense indeed. i always interpret mistakes (apart from it's - its) as forms or syntaxes i don't know, exceptions, etc.
well you can correct me anytime you want 'cause this way i could make my english better!
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yann_g
from now on 2005-07-26 16:41 [#01676207]
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well i am sometimes considered a "grammar nazi" sometimes, but what you don't seem to get in the first place is that grammar is the structure of a language. if don't know it you can't build properly. not speaking properly is mis(not)understanding the language you're speaking. it's actually more a matter of logic than grammar.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-07-26 16:43 [#01676208]
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Making fun of me replying to you instead of illfate eh? Well, YOU'RE FIRED!
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