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most of the music i like is really depressing
 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:25 [#01671487]
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im having troubles picking up tunes to play on radio
because the music i listen to is mostly real depressing (i
love it though) so if i want to pick something different
(something people actually listen to) it takes a lot of
time, and i have hard time putting songs together - it takes
me like 12 hours to pick for a 5 hours worth of music!!

i don't have this sort of troubles with depressing music -
whenever i start making a mix or a compilation (for myself)
i can do it real quick and it sounds good.

non depressing music just ain't my thing..

maybe this is going to change though :)

i wonder if this is a common thing around here..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:26 [#01671490]
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not to mention it still sounds depresing, no matter how i
try :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-21 17:27 [#01671494]
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oh just play depressing music if you think it's good music.

we're grown-ups, we can take it. :)


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-07-21 17:28 [#01671497]
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you should hear JCB by Nizlopi


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:28 [#01671499]
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yes you can i suppose, but listeners of that particular
radio don't :(


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:29 [#01671501]
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it'd be awesome if i could play the music i enjoy..i doubt
anyone would listen to that tho..ahh


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-07-21 17:31 [#01671504]
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actually i'm not sure if its depressing now


 

offline gay_dad from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-07-21 17:34 [#01671506]
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Maybe they want a miserabilist DJ, maybe that's why they
hired you?


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-21 17:34 [#01671507]
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what radio broadcast is this all for then?

one of my dad's friends openly admits to hating 'happy
music'


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:35 [#01671508]
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:) i wish..i'd play stuff i like but i can't. they have a
policy on that.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-21 17:36 [#01671509]
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that's amazing!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-07-21 17:36 [#01671510]
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i would listen to the DJ Tolstoyed's Sunday Sadness Jam Live
radio program religiously.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-07-21 17:41 [#01671517]
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if i got famous i'd love it if someone killed themself to my
music. i'd also quite like to make a really happy track that
someone might have played at their funeral and everyone
would cry anyway cause thats what happens


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:41 [#01671519]
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it's for some local radio..and music they (we) play is by
all means not happy music, infact it's quite mental and
kinda hard to listen to. alternative music only, but still
nothing like the music i enjoy when i listen to music
alone.

some bands i included in list for this saturday:
muslimgauze
mike ladd
james chance & contortions
the fall
durutti column
mice parade
boards of canada
meat beat manifesto
dj spooky
public image limited
pop group
ulan bator
michael gira
nirvana
calexico
at the drive in
four tet
liars
the kills
wire
gang gang dance
luke vibert
squarepusher
triosk
susumu yokota
...

maybe one day i'll get a chance to make a playlist based on
my taste :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:42 [#01671521]
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haha, i hope you will some day :D


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-21 17:45 [#01671531]
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Ulan Bator, NICE AS ICE.

A lot of my favorite music is ''happy'' or ''jolly'' or
''life affirming'' or ''peppy''. Probably not the majority
of it... looking at my music, it looks like a huge chunk of
it is dark... but my top four artists are The Beatles/The
Free Design/Harry Nilsson/Soft Boys, and all of them are
delightful.


 

offline day_gad on 2005-07-21 17:47 [#01671532]
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harry nilsson , jesus f christ


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:48 [#01671534]
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'fly, candy dragon, fly' is the song i picked. i picked them
thanks to your recommendation, and i listened to two albums
before picking that song :)


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-07-21 17:49 [#01671537]
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a lot of those are great though... you don't like all of
them or something?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:50 [#01671539]
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no, it isn't that i don't like them, it's mostly good music
that i can enjoy here and there, but it isn't the kind of
music i listen to when i um listen :)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-21 17:52 [#01671541]
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Cool, man, Ulan Bator is the bee's knees and your show is
going to be the cat's pajamas. What would you play if it was
a ''self indulgent'' show for your ears only?


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-07-21 17:53 [#01671542]
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their station would reach a larger audience if they allowed
diversity. they should really let you play whatever you
like...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-21 17:53 [#01671544]
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you need to get famous.. then people will let you do
whatever the fuck you want and you can play whatever you
want and people will excuse it 'cause you're famous...


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-07-21 17:53 [#01671545]
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yeah, there's one thing we agree on - cool group. :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 17:59 [#01671548]
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i don't know, that changes real quick. atm i totally dig
music concrete type of music but that would probably bore
the hell out of everyone.

r40f, i wish they'd let us do that. there are certain rules
we must follow - like playing 15-20% of old music, about 15%
of domestic music (this is my bigest problem as i don't know
of any cool domestic bands at all..there aren't any really)
and like 20% of music that is in radios playlist (new stuff,
atm; untilted, new meat beat manifesto, vibert, something
new by gira,...).

i played couple of avantgarde tunes a couple of weeks ago
and the editor said to keep that down to the minimum :) or
at least to write some remarks about it so the listeners
would understand..


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-07-21 18:06 [#01671559]
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oh, what a bastard. i don't know, man... what fun is
having a radio show if you can't play anything you like? i
guess it's worth it to you to just do as they say so that
you can keep the job, though, eh?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 18:12 [#01671568]
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well, i can squeeze in a few songs i really like so that
helps. and you get to do that more after a while. it's the
new ones that must follow the rules quite strictly. also, i
want to be more involved in music, find out more stuff about
it so this is really a good opportunity...also, when i'll be
set to talk on air, i'll get to do an hour and two hours
long shos here and there, where i'll be able to present
music/artists i dig :)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-21 18:15 [#01671571]
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Doesn't seem so bad... it's not that hard to craft a good
radio show that doesn't totally reflect your tastes, maybe
just one aspect of them. I'd do it for free even if I was
really limited and not allowed to play anything ''weird'' or
whatever. I assume Tol likes all those artists at least a
little bit.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-21 18:17 [#01671572]
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And maybe you could eventually work your way up until you
were the next John Peel. Start small, end tall.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 18:20 [#01671576]
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yes, definitely. i like all those artists, or else i
wouldn't have picked them. but then again they don't have
any music (or very little) that i love..but i'll burn them
some of that :)

and, personally i'd be much more in favour on not having
those rules. there are a lot of people doing this and if we
would all pick our favourite music that would mean a lot of
diversity which would be awesome imo. because the way it is
now, it's pretty much similar music all them time. different
tunes and artists ofcourse but it kinda sounds too much
alike. although you can always tell a difference whether it
was guy or a girl that was doing it :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 18:20 [#01671578]
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yes, sure :)


 

offline blobula from BElgraDe on 2005-07-21 18:22 [#01671581]
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don't worry tolstoyed.
you'll get yr own show, it just takes a time.

you should ask that editor if you can program late
night/early morning playlists, they need to be calm and you
can place all depression there.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 18:24 [#01671585]
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computer plays random tunes in the night time..but maybe
that will change one day as well :)


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-21 18:48 [#01671601]
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weren't you talking about this a few months ago? :)

i'm exactly the same way really... sure i love happy music,
but if i were to do a list of my all time favourites i'm
pretty certain 2/3s or more would be pretty sombre stuff....
sad makes me feel best for some reason... and i'm not a sad
person... just is how it is...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 18:54 [#01671605]
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you mean the sad vs. happy music?

i was indeed :) but this is something new now, i have quite
a varied taste i'd say but still can't come up with
something less depressing easilly..it takes time..too much
time :)

"sad makes me feel best for some reason"

same here, although i would call myself a non sad person :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 18:55 [#01671606]
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wouldn't*

jav..


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-21 19:06 [#01671609]
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i just read through all of this, and it looks like you are
running into the same problems i do... especially when it
comes to playing domestic releases: i find this to be the
greatest ass-pain in the world, and i'm complaining about
Canada, whereas you are complaining about Slovenia which
must be maybe a 10th as big (what is the population of
Slovenia, anyway?)....

fortunately for me, the program director and the music
director both seem to dig people who play out-there stuff
and whenever i feel like maybe i'm pushing things a bit,
usually one of them is like "wow, are you going to play all
of this 20 minute song?! awesome!!"... and both of them just
got their contracts extended, so i should be in good for at
least a few more years... i think you shouldn't be afraid to
play stuff you genuinely enjoy, so long as you can come up
with something brief and creative to say about it, in order
to give people a point of entry into the music... this is
good, not only because it helps people have an idea of what
to listen for, but also it gives them more of a chance to
get to know you, and eventually they will end up trusting
your tastes and hurling themselves at whatever you decide to
play.

all the best Goran!
i can think of few people who are better suited for this
than you!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-21 19:14 [#01671618]
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hmm, i could easily make 5 hrs worth of music with just
canadian music but i can't come up with 40 decent minutes of
slovenian stuff (we had some cool bands, back in the 80's
but i can't keep playing same stuff over and over again).
we're a country of 2 milion so there :)

and my editor is an awesome guy as well, and digs music, and
also trusts opinions of people he worh with as long as you
can stand behind what you say about it. it seems like, these
two radios are really similar - both sort of educational
which is awesome.

"and eventually they will end up trusting your tastes and
hurling themselves at whatever you decide to play."

i'll break it to them easilly :)


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-07-21 21:21 [#01671716]
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i am the same tolstoyed - whenever i make a mix tape for a
friend, they always say how depressing it is, i just like
the dark stuff.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-07-22 02:42 [#01671802]
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put some happy mondays on next time you make one of those!
:)

if it isn't kinda darkish, or depressing i have hard time
listening to it..i get kinda nervous and all..jav


 


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