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epohs
from )C: on 2005-07-12 15:51 [#01660448]
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(i've never been in a fight either, nacho)
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k_maty
on 2005-07-12 15:51 [#01660449]
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Wow. Can you back that up? I mean, where do you get your facts from?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-12 15:52 [#01660451]
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Nah I don't think that.
Don't watch fox news, do ya? :)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-12 15:55 [#01660454]
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What, the fact that the majority of people serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are poor americans who are only doing it to get a grant or scholarship or whatever to go to college?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-07-12 15:59 [#01660460]
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I feel like killing someone right now
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-12 15:59 [#01660462]
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Not true, my buddy is from an middle-upper class family who joined to get terrorists, not Iraqi citizens.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-12 16:02 [#01660465]
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I can understand how you feel about gun laws here but there's not much anyone can do short of amending the constitution. Lobbyists are way to powerful for that to happen. Besides, if gun laws were taken away people would still buy them on the street or on the black market of from the local millitia.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-12 16:05 [#01660469]
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Mertens is right, changing the gun laws wont change the fact that there are still guns everywhere. Now instead of going into a pawn shop to get one, you buy it on the black market.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-07-12 16:08 [#01660476]
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i could kill linus torvalds in his face with a waterballoon right now... why the fuck does burning a cd in linux have to suck so hard
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-12 16:10 [#01660478]
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Oh, well if your buddy......
I've been saying "the vast majority" all the way throughout, and the fact i stated in [#01660454] is just that: a fact.
I agree with you as well, that banning guns won't get rid of them overnight -- the country is already far too fucked up* for that -- but it'd be a step in the right direction.
*fucked up: littered with guns, everywhere
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-07-12 16:11 [#01660479]
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Yeah if you look at Canada, they all have guns, more apparently and practically no gun related crimes each year. (I watched a programme on tv :D )
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-12 16:17 [#01660489]
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Yeah thats what I was thinking, since we cant rectify the problem, lets go to the other extreme and give everyone guns. Crazily enough, it might work.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-07-12 16:20 [#01660495]
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Sometimes the solutions to a problem are the least obvious
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-12 16:29 [#01660500]
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Theres two problems here. When you say "most americans" it appears that you would be speaking of a "more than half". The word most constitutes a large percentage. Our population is around 250,000,000.
Therefore K_maty wasnt entirely wrong with the "hundreds of thousands" statement.
Your views are quite wild. All this talk about poor americans in the army when there are so many from well off familys that have been enlisting because they want to honor their familys or support the country they live in.
You have this overwhelming close minded view on the US. If you have never stayed here for over a month then you dont really know much aside from what the TV tells you. I am quite well aware of the anti-american stuff on the TV over seas. I personally feel like that if we even do anything good to benefit anyone it wont matter because it wont draw ratings seeing as "anti american" news draws ratings due to the overall feeling of the rest of the world.
Unfortunately nothing will improve for us because the media isnt all of a sudden going to do a 180 and start praising our country for anything that we do good. Which will keep non americans virtually "anti-american" Which will in turn get us no where.
Secondly (imo) not having guns can be quite dangerous. The people in this world are not 100% peace loving and you will always have some sort of mafia/syndicate that will vie for power using deadly force. People should have the right to protect ourselves from that.
Our right to bear arms was instated (if i remember correctly) to defend ourselves from our own government if anything went out of control.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-12 16:31 [#01660506]
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word
*80's pose*
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-12 16:48 [#01660518]
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The fact of the matter is that the Army recruiters over there specifically target poor, working-class young Americans and that the majority of those serving overseas at the moment are in this demographic.
Those who are from more well-off families and have signed up, well - they should've known better. They obviously believe they're doing something patriotic and honourable: but is it really honourable to fight for your country's global dominance in a war that was obviously unjust to begin with?
And this brings us to the last point - what you regard as an anti-American bias in the media outside the states. The fact is that it isn't anti-American, it just isn't as censored as the media in America (the American press ranked #17 in the world in terms of freedom).
So therefore, you almost can't blame anyone for signing up to do their "patriotic duty", when they're being told that this is what it is, from all quarters, and there is so little criticism of the idea of going to war in the media, compared with the discussion that went on outside America.
It's seen as unpatriotic by some to criticise the President and his policies over there -- then what's the point of your so-called democracy? This is what I'm railing against. Ignorance.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-12 16:49 [#01660522]
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*when they're being told this is what it is by all quarters, and there......
my grammar is becoming atrocious. head's in a muddle.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-12 18:13 [#01660597]
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someone kill something and post a pic here, before this thread is too far gone... :D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-12 18:15 [#01660601]
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do you support theocide?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-12 18:16 [#01660603]
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FAV+
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-12 19:08 [#01660716]
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Anybody who ever seriously endangers or hurts my girlfriend, depending on circumstance and reasoning. Pretty much anything else I am not going get too serious about.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-12 19:38 [#01660779]
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I'd kill someone who hurt a cat/kitten or dissed my mom.
Yeah if you look at Canada, they all have guns, more apparently and practically no gun related crimes each year. (I watched a programme on tv :D )
I dunno about that, I don't know anyone with guns (I don't know many people, granted, but still). ''Programmes'' on TV can be wrong, I remember Bowling for Columbine presented us inaccurately.
But yeah us Canadians rock and are the sexy master race.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-12 19:40 [#01660782]
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we have a murder-death-kill on 7th
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-12 19:43 [#01660785]
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this one died at the hand of my..... hand.
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