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I am looking into buying a sampler. Within reason, price is not option (I don't want to go over $2,500, and I am hoping to finance it instead of buying flat out). I really like the mpc format, of having the pads layed out, and programming it that way. The whole reason I am purchasing a sampler is so I don't have to program beats with a computer, although if I end up buying a rackmount I will probly also purchace one of those m-audio or akai pad controllers that will be dedicated to the sampler. The thing I might like about a rackmount unit, is I can store it on top of my tapedeck, and then it will still leave me a good ammount of room on my desk. So I am looking for suggestions. I am open to advice on all samplers, but key features will be intuitive interface (most important part!!! buttons and knobs being where they should be and very little fucking around with interface matrixes, very little time to record and set up your samples), supported samplerates, 24 bit output, low latency, upgradability, and sample memory. Thanx in advance :D |
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It takes a long time to edit and set up your sounds with a hardware sampler like the mpc, the display is tiny, the interface is difficult to learn + memory is limited and expensive. Your computer is capable of becoming a very powerful sampler, you should save yourself £1000 and go buy a virtual sampler (NI Battery for beats) with an or an |
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Well, the thing is, I have a controller. I am concerned with stability. I know the mpc isn't going to cause cubase to freeze when I have too many instances of it running at once. As well, I am kind of getting tired of playing with a mouse. I want the physical interface, and a studio that won't require regular upgrades. As well, and mpc is an all in one that can be played live. Laptops aren't strong enough for my uses, at least ones that I would consider affordable, and I don't want to set up a monitor, mouse, keyboard, controller, and box when I want to play live. Less parts = less likely to fail me at an important point. I just want something dedicated to making music, that doesn't have to have any extra bullshit running to work. What I plan to do is edit my sounds in recycle and audition, and then export them into the sampler or transfer them through a portable medium. Seriously, I am an experienced producer, and am proficient in battery, kontakt, kompakt, and a bunch of other software samplers. I just want to be able to use both software and hardware for their mutual benefits. |
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fair play to you mate, I use hardware stuff aswell...it's much more reliable for live situations, I didnt realise you wanted to use it for that.....the mpc can't be touched in that respect. Go buy it now! Loads of places do finance and ting. I have used a few times, simply because of the name...fancy calling your shop after man milk |
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thnx for the link ;) but if I were to use UK electronics in north america, I have heard that it can warrant less than friendly results. Doesn't electronics from north america not get enough electricity in british power sockets and british electronics get fried circuitry in north america? |
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Haha sorry, Didn't realise you were from accross the pond, should have noticed the $ sign in your first post. We do have different electrical ratings, so yeah...probably best you go somewhere a bit more local :) |
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I am really interested in peoples stories or advice with samplers from here. |
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imo you should buy the same sampler as Madlib's because his two quasimoto albs, based on samples, are ace |
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im potentially happy with what i have. :) |
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hardware sounds so complex. it makes me not wanna go down that road |
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boss sp505 is kinda like an mpc in the way that you have all the trigger pads the onboard editing is quite good too and price isnt too bad. i use one live and have never had any problems. you need to play all your rhythms live rather than programming a step at a time so you get quite a nice human feel to it |
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ok MPC4000. you can hook up a VGA monitor too it too I beleive. Its a beast, very much better than any other MPC, 24/96 capable, hard disk full of quality samples, think the factory memory is only 16meg ram, so buy some DIMMs, can take upto 512MB, more than enough. I'm rocking with a S5000 with 104MB ram and its a struggle to fill it unless you have long long samples. AKAI's are bomb proof. there was a few wobbles with the S series software at first, but its fine now, the Z series is bombproof I have been led to beleive, and its the same sampling engine in the MPC4000 as the Z series. Its got about 8 assignable 'Q'knobs which are excellent and pads galore. In build decent fx too, on the Z series you can do a quick transform effect on a sample, and also you have some internal sends to use the int.fx. I think its the same on the MPC4k. Loads of connectivity at the rear. its quality, but maybe a little pricey.try the MPC1000 as a compromise if he 4000 is too much, cos the 1000 is a great little box, but its not the big beast the 4000 is, but you get what you pay for! |
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Yeah. I was looking at the mv8000 a while back. They had quite a few in ebay going for around 1.6k... (where the mpc4000 is 3.2k) As far as I know they are comparable. As far as the 4000 goes, I will probly have to go the ebay route, as aparently you can't get them in canada right now. |
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well I don't know how comparable they are I thought the MPC was different, kinda less a all in one solution more of a key piece of kit, that was totally pukka. The mv8000 is probably great, but I suspect the MPC4000 is greater. Although I've never really got into MPCs and the like, im more of a rack mount sampler man myself, hence the S5000. The pads are cute but the 808/909 method is the bomb. Infact I've designed my own 808 style sequencer electronics, which if I ever get round to I will prototype someday...... |
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im selling samples, wanna buy one? |
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the mpc's are spendy but youll get no better hardware sampler, is it too late to reccomend trigger finger? |
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Yeah. I don't want more computer samplers. Dave_g: I have heard the mv8000 is better, just not as well known. Its just harder to find one on ebay. (if I go that route). I can get one for 2.7k at the local store if I finance it, which is what I will probly end up doing. |
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How about a BOSS SP-303, Madlib uses one. But it might be too lightweight for what you are looking for. |
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ive got an sp303 and yes it is too lightweight. the sequencer is pants basically its got 3 LED 7 segment displays so can spell 3 letter words on the screen only so can be cryptic at first. fx section is great. well i think it is. sampling is a pain with it. ive got a load of 808 and 909 samples on it and its ok for banging out a quick beat but not a lot more. I use the fx lots. fav thing=phasor rate can be set to zero. why don't more expensive units have this!!?!? |
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$2,500 jeez |
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Thats just how much I am willing to put forth. I would rather not spend all that. |
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well, from what i hear MPC's would be a good way to go I believe Zeus has one. perhaps you could catch him online, but he doesn't pop in here much lately |
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zeus has a phat mpc if i remember him posting that.. he'd give you some good advice the sp303 while lightweight is alot of fun for that reason, cause you can just pick it up and just do beats right there - it takes 5 seconds to turn on and get into it |
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hmmm. Honestly, being able to make beats quickly is a definate benefite, but I am more concerned about power than speed. Intuitive is a good thing, but I don't want something that dumbs it down so much that I can't really do much else. |
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I read that Nas payed 2 mils for a beat. so 2500 for an mpc aint that bad. lol. |
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the neptunes got 1mil for the "holly back girl" beat which i think was made in 10 minutes |
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zuh? Nope, no MPC. I do have a trigger finger which I love. |
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hmmmmm, i wonder who i was thinking of... |
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Akai S6000 or Z8.. fantastic machines! |
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well, I just went out and purchased an mpc2k. The nearby music store just so happened to have a used one that they just bought. I was only going in to change the financing plan I had set up on a previous piece of gear... This one has an effect card worth $400c into it, and I ended up paying less than they have the mpc1k going for. Incidentally, they said they haven't had any in for about 6 months, as they no longer deal with the distributor for akai anymore, so I think it might have been fate. Now I have to learn how to use it... |
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yeah, I dont know what the deal is, but apparently akai is going through a transition to new management, so temporarily no new items are being shipped or something like this. not the end of akai at all, just a temporary transitional phase. or so ive heard anyways, sounds like you got a really good deal. my good friend lives by his mpc2k, im sure it wont disappoint |
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Heh... I am getting to the guts of this thing. I am very happy with todays purchace. Assigning of samples is a breeze (although slightly a little more destructive than I am accustomed to). All it needs is more ram, and zip drive which if everything works out as planned will be in the post tomorrow. I am going to be buying a zip drive from a friend for a good price, so I am very happy. In a weeks time, everything should fit together like a glove. |
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Ace!!! |
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