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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-06 14:43 [#01654328]
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LAZY_LIL KIM STORY
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-06 14:49 [#01654333]
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oh great...she'll have another album coming when she's out. I wonder what it's going to be about...
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-06 14:49 [#01654334]
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it's no fucking point for having her jailed for just one year.
it will only enhance her stupid gangsta image. 20 years would've been better.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 14:51 [#01654337]
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Another raper behind bars. Thank you, you`ve made my night.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 14:53 [#01654339]
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"One man was injured in the shootout, which happened at the same radio station where rapper 50 Cent was involved in a gun battle in March this year."
They should all kill each other for good.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 14:55 [#01654340]
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did she rape someone?
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2005-07-06 14:57 [#01654342]
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Haha! Jail!
HA!
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mimi
on 2005-07-06 14:58 [#01654344]
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she should be jailed indefinitely for the magic stick
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2005-07-06 14:59 [#01654345]
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Magic stick?
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mimi
on 2005-07-06 15:01 [#01654346]
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ya, she dueted with fiddy cent
fiddy: i got da magic stick blah blah lil k: i am da baddest chick blah blah
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 15:02 [#01654348]
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I`ll take you to the candy shop I`ll let you lick the lollipop
*vomits*
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2005-07-06 15:03 [#01654351]
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Ha! Duet....
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2005-07-06 15:04 [#01654352]
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I hate that song.
Its makes me gag a bit~
So should I be like "Please! Thank you for letting me get facefucked by your 'Lollipop'! I am fulfilled!"
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-06 15:04 [#01654353]
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the best part about that post was you spelt rapper "raper" and it made it more funny to me. Little kimmy being a rapist and all! :p
I think she should hae gotten 20. I would have if it was me
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mimi
on 2005-07-06 15:04 [#01654354]
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i woulda done it too though, fuck tha haterz
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 15:07 [#01654358]
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hahaha, stupid me...
I hate rap so much that I consider it a rape.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 15:10 [#01654363]
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you unconditionally hate all rap?
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 15:12 [#01654365]
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You should be like: "thank you for making music disgusting 50 ruble fucker"
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 15:16 [#01654368]
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I like Beastie Boys.
I hate thosel ook-at-my-golden-diamond chain style rappers. Pop pussies pretending to be gagsta badasses. Aaaaargghhhh!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-06 15:19 [#01654370]
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You might like under ground hip hop which is nothing like typical rap but instead revolves around pure talent and beats
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 15:20 [#01654371]
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you know there's lots of rap that isn't like that, though, right?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 15:23 [#01654377]
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that too was a bit of a wrong statement. there's lots of great "typical" or "overground" hip-hop too, and to say that "typical rap" doesn't revolve around pure talent...
people just don't bother to listen to anything but the chorus nowadays anyway...
the hip-pop (50 cent and friends) is mostly crap, though... mostly.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 15:30 [#01654387]
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There are probably some artists that make decent/good rap music, but I`m not so keen to go for a search.
There`s too little music in this music, and I don`t like the way they use language.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 15:40 [#01654398]
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in which way do they use language?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-06 15:42 [#01654400]
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True but in my eyes its quite few and far between. Especially if we are talking about current rap. Its hard to listen to something like three six and take it serious. And any dipwad can rap like project pat.
But you are right and talent isnt limited to the underground. Thanks for the correction! :)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-06 15:43 [#01654401]
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perhaps using slang and/or ebonics?
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 15:48 [#01654404]
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Shame on a nigga who try to run game on a nigga Wu buck wild with the trigger! Shame on a nigga who try to run game on a nigga Wu buck- I FUCK yo' ass up! What?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 15:48 [#01654405]
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yeah, the stuff that is literally thrown in our faces is mostly crap, but that's the same for all types of music... three six is great gangsta/party stuff, but nothing for everyday listening.
re: language
well.. slang and ebonics.. isn't that almost like a dialect? aren't people allowed to sing in their dialects? (this is more directed at gvarek, btw) I also remember people saying that rappers use "bad" words all the time.. well, it's the same for lots of the rock and other types of vocal music.. and day-to-day speech.. I swear all the time, but no-one really cares.. it's normal.. it's how I talk, and I'm pretty sure it's how "normal" people everywhere talk...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 15:50 [#01654409]
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that's great! ol' dirty rocks!
if you mean the use of the word nigga in there, you may have noticed that the use of nigga by black people is removing the negative "power" of the word.. nigger/nigga is a descriptive-evaluative word, and shifting its content from something negative to something good or neutral would in fact make racism harder.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 15:53 [#01654415]
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oops.. need to clarify the last bit I think
*make racism harder to.. do
when racists used "nigger," they de-personified the black man.. it wasn't a person any more, it was a nigger. I think I've said this exact thing here on xlt before, but I'll say it again: the same way that soldiers during the second world war were killing "krauts" and not german people and soldiers in the vietnam war were killing "charlie," the racist is "just putting down a nigger." if "nigger" becomes neutral, it'll become harder to de-personfiy the person you're badgering.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 15:58 [#01654422]
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No, no I don`t mean the use of "nigga", I mean that rappers use reduced language, reduced to cliches, to tricks, they cripple the language...
I`m a poet man, try to undrstand me...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-06 15:59 [#01654425]
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You are refering to the bastardization of the english language?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 16:03 [#01654434]
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how does that up there cripple the language any more than everyday slang and dialects?
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 16:22 [#01654463]
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Everyday slang and dialects refer to communication, they`re ment for expression, and it`s a normal situation, rappers use it in the poetic function of a language, thus over simplifying it. (Because as I said their language is not "full")
sender---> message ---> recipient
expressive function - refers to recipient poetic - refers to the message
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 16:33 [#01654470]
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well, that's not very different from other poetic expressions.. why don't you like it in rap?
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 16:56 [#01654480]
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I like your attitude, you`re tough!
Rap uses a degenerated form of language and it makes us belive that it`s a normal situation, thus affecting our everyday use of it. (Because it got so popular). And in comparsion to (good) rock lyrics rap lacks power, it`s too literal, too unleavened, to simple-minded, too rough, finesseless. Of course remember that is only MY standpoint; try to imagine a guy writing one stanza for three hours, maybe then you`ll get my point...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-07-06 17:03 [#01654484]
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Dude, Autechre was made to rap over. You could rap over any of their tracks
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 18:28 [#01654581]
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you're forgetting the power of the simple. sometimes you have to just say stuff right out and as short as possible to make an impact.. this is the origin of slogans (although slogans have lost their effect these days due to over-usage). True Hip-hop is about being real (a cliché, but it's god damned fucking true!).. there's nothing simple-minded about hip-hop or any form of art.. I wouldn't even call the simplest of 50 cents songs "simple-minded."
also, there's the different styles of rap. The one I love the most is storytelling, which is closest to the roots of rap; telling a story or something that happened to you that day or just.. whatever in a rhytmical fashion. It goes back through the blues, the slave-songs, the african stories that were sung.. it's a huge part of the entire culture. I feel lucky that this culture has spread from being only black people to any and all races so that even I can enjoy the often simple but wonderful stories told through the rhymes of a real person and not some emotional over-metaphorical rock-star. metaphors are good for some things, but there's use and there's abuse.. the best examples of abuse are japanese pop/song lyrics... that's something I'd never want to have to use in everyday speech.. I'd rather say "I did what I did because I had to did it" than "justified flowers that require love are second to none and first of all"
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-06 18:34 [#01654585]
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i'd let lil kim rape me...
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-07-06 23:53 [#01654721]
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YALLS WHACK
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-07-07 01:11 [#01654742]
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She'll be in the next series of Bad Girls now
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-07 02:14 [#01654782]
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I`m getting your point; thank you for being so elaborate.
[This doesn`t mean that I`m convinced though ;-)].
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big
from lsg on 2005-07-07 03:05 [#01654812]
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any a ridiculous artist like that should be jailed good thing she cant brag about having shot someone that stupid lolipop song, though quite the same level as her music, isnt with her
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