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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-06 10:33 [#01654009]
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Always trying to make a quick buck out of anything.
Take a look at this. Decks of cards glorifying and
extolling the virtues of the oh-so-great neo-con leaders,
and shitting on those who have a shred of decency and
morality to them: Kofi Annan and Hans Blix are in the "Thugs
and Weasels" deck along with people like Atta, Hussein and
Qaddafi.

I KNOW this is meant to be a joke, funny, whatever, but it's
appealing to the lowest common denominator, so sales are
probably doing quite well in the US. I can't stop imagining
stupid fucking rednecks playing poker with them and
guffawing aloud at the captions, unaware of their
absurdity.

The one below is what really riled me up. This has nothing
to do with the board, I doubt anyone gives a shit, but I've
got to vent my anger somehow. I feel so fucking angry about
this, I'm becoming ever more violently racist against
America. It's dispicable but I feel like pulverizing the
entire nation.

NOAM CHOMSKY IS NOT A FUCKING HOLOCAUST DENIER

For fuck's sake. I'm fucking raging. Why does America have
to be so stupid, be not just spoonfed this shit, but to
enthusiastically lap it up. It makes me so fucking angry
inside.


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offline outpt on 2005-07-06 10:36 [#01654015]
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you really have no life if you allow yourself to be riled in
this way. perhaps a girlfriend would help, or perhaps you
will have to just wait for the onset of puberty.


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2005-07-06 10:39 [#01654020]
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it's not america, it's a select portion of the population
that happens to live in america. we're not all
redneck-cousin-banging hicks who thinks nascar = god. don't
blame the people who feel the same as you.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-06 10:40 [#01654025]
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Come on now. Do you really think those cards represent the
view of over 250 million people?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-07-06 10:42 [#01654030]
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The moral of the story: only americans are capable of
stupidity.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-06 10:42 [#01654032]
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I'm curious. Why would the people who made those cards
regard Chomsky as a Holocaust denier? What statements did he
make regarding the holocaust in the first place?


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-07-06 10:43 [#01654034]
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does this include Latino-Americans? I hope not >:(


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-07-06 10:45 [#01654036]
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Just say "I hate capitalism" and that pretty much covers it
all.
It's way too easy just to say "I hate america" because a lot
of people in america probably agree with you. Those people
don't get a chance to represent themselves and all you and I
see is a view of america that is molded and shaped by those
who have the power to do so. We are all victims my friend.


 

offline ToXikFB on 2005-07-06 10:46 [#01654037]
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Hans Brrrix!!!


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offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-06 10:48 [#01654042]
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you know what, I bet if the entire world was communist,
there wouldn't be stupid people.


 

offline gay_dad from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-07-06 10:48 [#01654043]
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And of course, Noam Chomsky is an American.


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2005-07-06 10:48 [#01654045]
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I met a nice American guy the other week at a Thievery
Corporation gig. Not all Americans are the same. You just
think it because all we ever see on tv is the dickheads.
They need to get viewers somehow. Nobody would be interested
in seeing nice, normal Americans. You know what stereotypes
are like.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-06 11:08 [#01654083]
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Dumb question time: What is the dominant stereotype for
Americans?


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-07-06 11:12 [#01654090]
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OMG STUPID FUCKING AMERICANS!!!! THEY STOLE MY IDEAS AND ATE
MY BREAD!11uno


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-07-06 11:16 [#01654096]
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I think REdRum here is just expressing the exasperation many
non-Americans feel that the US general public has allowed
their country to be taken over by the far-right without much
of a struggle.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-07-06 11:20 [#01654098]
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Sometimes it seems as though non americans have nothing to
do better then complain about americans. its quite brilliant
actually because the way our medias work we will have no
allies and then no longer be a super power down the road.

its only a matter of time.

*tries to makes a sandwhich with no bread*


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-06 11:21 [#01654099]
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Money might have something to do with it.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-07-06 11:22 [#01654101]
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49% of the populace struggled enough to vote against the
current administration. Granted, that's not an "uprising",
but it's also not total complaicency.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-07-06 11:22 [#01654103]
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Corrction: 49% of the voting populace


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2005-07-06 11:27 [#01654105]
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yanks. you either love 'em or hate 'em.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-07-06 11:29 [#01654108]
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Well non-Americans have realised that the US Govt. and
Corporations are a major threat to world peace and trade.
For instance, WalMart have bought over ASDA here in the U.K.
and now TimeWarner are attempting to buy out ITV, the 1st of
2nd most watched television channel in the U.K. so don't
blame us for being wary and 'having nothing better to do'
than to keep a very cautious eye on the doings of our
neighbours across the Atlantic.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-07-06 11:32 [#01654113]
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its too late to do anything about it. you must become one of
them. start by making small idols of dale earnheardt jr


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-07-06 11:38 [#01654120]
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i've never fucked an american.

"I'm becoming ever more violently racist against
America." and people with poor knowledge of tha english
language too ?


 

offline k_maty on 2005-07-06 11:45 [#01654131]
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The problem with America is the endless spread of SUBURBIA.
In my opinion of course.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-07-06 11:56 [#01654142]
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SUBURBIA = APATHY TOWARD INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS



 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-06 11:59 [#01654149]
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Americans are stupid


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-07-06 12:00 [#01654150]
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I think spreading violence and rampant hatred is the
solution. So, good, it looks like me and redrum have more
in common than he thinks.


 

offline k_maty on 2005-07-06 12:14 [#01654170]
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The stereotypical suburbanite gets off work, drives his air
conditioned SUV through the McDonald's drive through for
some comfort food on his way to the grocery store, where he
picks up 20 lbs of Beef and 20 lbs of potato chips and fills
his SUV with them. After spending an hour in traffic, he
gets home, barbecues, and watches football. It's like
living in isolation. His house is made out of the shittiest
materials and is identical to the neighbors'. It will fall
apart before the mortgage is done.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-06 12:42 [#01654216]
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When the policies of America effect the rest of the world so
greatly, putting us all now within the grim possibility of
nuclear war, I think everyone has a right to speak their
mind about the administration.

The reason I attacked, and do attack so often, normal
Americans is because they are, generally incredibly stupid
-- there is an overwhelming majority of idiots who just sit
around, get fat, and believe everything their TV tells
them.

I don't think any of these people reside on this
messageboard -- idm would be a little beyond them -- and I
do absolutely acknowledge the fact that there are
great, sound American Joe Bloggses out there. What I have a
problem with is this overwhelming majority of IDIOTS, the
sort of people who say speaking out against a government is
unpatriotic, even though that's the very freedom of speech
that they hold so dear as to inflict a horrific war of
plunder - in the name of liberation of things like speech.

...I just want to get across that I'm not casting a blanket
expression over ALL Americans (even though I stand by the
title of my topic, as I believe that something as
ill-concieved and pathetic as this could only come out of
America, where the #1 reason you are alive is to MAKE
MONEY.
)

And, as for the Noam Chomsky holocaust denier bullshit, it's
because Noam signed a petition for French holocaust denier
Robert Faurisson wrote a preface for a book by him. He
didn't write about anything to do with the holocaust in the
preface, he is in fact a jew (and his first language is
Hebrew), his preface is about the protection of the freedom
of speech. Yet time and time again he gets pulverised by the
right for doing this. He said something very poignant about
it:

If you're in favour of freedom of speech that means
you're in favour of freedom of speech precisely for views
you despise, otherwise you're not in favour of freedom of
speech.


href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#The_Fauriss
Chomsky - The Faurisson affair (wi


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-07-06 12:43 [#01654217]
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the american dream


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 12:48 [#01654228]
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SPORTS

UTILITY

VEHICLE


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-06 12:49 [#01654230]
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...I thought you thought superbowl was god..?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-06 12:52 [#01654232]
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Yikes. What do you think about Canada?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-07-06 12:52 [#01654233]
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have non-americans realized that? if so, then why do they
and their governments consistently seek to work with u.s.
businesses? i'm not suggesting that economic imperialism is
a good thing; i'm taking you to task for putting out the
welcome mat. the reason you've got mcdonalds in your
country is because you (or your neighbors) are eating there.
it seems you'd like to find anybody to blame for all of
england's problems (except the english).

it's really surprising how many people whine about
corporate/capitalist influence in their countries and yet
they persist in accepting corporate, mass media stereotypes
about americans as factual.

unfortunately, the most relevant observation for this
thread, that noam chomsky is american, has already been
posted.



 

offline nacmat on 2005-07-06 12:55 [#01654237]
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I dont think the thread title is very intelligent

respect man, but its my opinion


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-07-06 12:58 [#01654241]
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Blair was there to try and temper Bush during the Iraq
affair - he was soundly thrashed by the public and lost a
LOT of seats in the election which he duly acknowledged.
Also, our leaders signed the Kyoto agreement while Bush goes
on about only doing things for his country.


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-06 13:00 [#01654242]
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I say fuck politics!


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-06 13:00 [#01654244]
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So, the equation goes, the more stupid you are the greater
chance you have of taking over the world.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-06 13:41 [#01654285]
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Yes, so it's been said Noam Chomsky is American.

As I have already said -- it's not all Americans that I'm
railing against, it's the majority, made up of morons whom
i've already described. Noam Chomsky is the a person for
whom I have the utmost respect, in fact more respect than
any other. I'm not saying it's impossible to be brilliant or
indeed brilliantly intelligent if you're born and raised
American, all I'm saying is that I dispise this group of
Americans who are so completely mindless.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-06 13:43 [#01654290]
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that should read:

it's not all Americans I'm railing against, it's the
apparent majority, .....

Also, a proper link to the Noam Chomsky Faurisson affair section of his
rather comprehensive wikipedia page.


 

offline mark from out of town on 2005-07-06 13:48 [#01654293]
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But you use anecdotal evidence to attack a large,
ill-defined group of people. You attack people that you
know very little about. If you expressed yourself
literally, you'd hear how ill-informed you sound. What you
mean is "Some Americans are stupid." Not exactly a
revelation, I think.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-06 13:52 [#01654297]
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I'm not looking to make a revelation, I'm looking to vent my
anger and frustration.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-07-06 13:53 [#01654299]
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if you were an american you could pick a gun off a tree and
shoot an old lady.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-06 13:56 [#01654300]
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you could also wear a mullet and think you're being cool.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-07-06 13:58 [#01654301]
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are you trying to say that mullets aren't cool?


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-06 14:00 [#01654303]
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It's not mindlessness. It's a differing point of view.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-06 14:02 [#01654305]
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The thing is, People w/ mullets aren't even in the debate.
They might have voted, though. :-(


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-06 14:03 [#01654307]
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You can buy sawed off shotguns at walmart.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-06 14:03 [#01654309]
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Is a point of view based on ignorance a valid one?

No.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-06 14:07 [#01654311]
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already sawn off?

goddamn you guys are lazy!


 


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