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ok. I'm going to help a friend out on saturday (I'll stand in the back and browse records mostly, which bascially is all I can do right now, but he says he's going to have me do some things if he got to go to the toilet or have a drink or whatever), and I keep thinking that I have no real skills (I can do SOME live mixing, but it always takes me a long time, and I don't know how or when to make the transitions when it's "live"... keep fucking up and doing a long transition when it should've been a short one and vice versa), and I'll probably fuck things up... so.. what I'd like are a few tips and tricks, and perhaps some tracks that I can match that are good for practice (don't give me tracks with the same base bpm, though, as that's too easy)... |
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-When attempting long mixes, pay attention to the eq's to prevent re-enforcement. eg.Kill bass on one track as bringing in next tracks bass, or fade bass eq's at same time, 1 in one out. - Never mix vocals over eachother unless particularly gifted At the end of the day most crowds don't give a shit about your mixing ability, they are there to hear good records. It is a nice bonus when successfully mixing two tracks but don't let that determine the tracks you play. Like passing on an excellent track that will work the floor just because you cant mix it. I always work by rule of three when playing in general i.e none Specialist chinstroker venues. Switch music style every three records, unless something is really working. This keeps the ladies happy, your most important crowd members, get them dancing and it doesnt matter what you are playing, every dude will be on the floor with them within minutes. |
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great! thanks! I'll keep that eq-stuff in mind. we'll most likely be mixing hip-hop most of the time.. and the other guy will most likely be doing most of the stuff, but I just wanted to be prepared as he said I'd be doing some things... the only bad thing for me right now is that I only got one turntable, so I have to mix with the pc on one channel and the turntable on the other, only being able to manipulate the table... |
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You will do fine, good luck with it...Just think if you don't fuck up during your short sections in the limelight, they might ask you back....no pressure :) The worst thing about DJ'ing is shit song requests from pretty girls. They never believe the old lies of "Sorry luv, must have left that at home, good track tho! (Can i still sleep with you?)" "Sorry I've already played it" They go through your record bag and insist on pushing stuff on the mixer. My favourite was a girl coming up and saying "My god, I've never seen so many knobs....Can I touch them?" |
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here is a tip it was just a trick! |
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hahaha! if I bring my records, there's no danger of me actually having any shit records, though, so they can browse the bag as much as they want! heh... anwyay, I hope I can make the other guy mix in some stuff that I actually know before he lets me take over, as it's much easier to know when to mix the next one in if I actually know when the lyrics stop... |
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dont get drunk mastah! |
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hahaha! only time will tell I guess! |
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just drop LFO by LFO and nobody will give a shit how good or bad you are. :D |
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when its going well do at least one drop. just press start/stop and whack the other song into the good bit. leave half a second, so the crowd have a small time to think before pow! a wicked tune they all know, and its at the good bit too |
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haven't got any lfo, and it'll be hip-hop anyway, I think... dave: you mean doing like those "BAM! ITS A GREAT TUNE" thingies with the crossfader? where I exchange every kick from the currently playing track with the other track as an anticipation of what's coming up? anyway, we're both just there to show off.. the other guy is trying to get booked, and I'm tagging along hoping to develop some skills and maybe get booked too later on... |
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remember to play it at the wrong speed to gain credability |
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yeah something like that. Its fun. Also don't do lots of scratching or turning the table off and letting it slooooooooooooooow down, cos that gets annoying. scratch a bit like 30 secs of it, then stop for 10-15mins don't wanna over do it, cos it can distract from the music. make sure the monitors or speakers are set up so you can hear the high frequencies or else mixing is hard when you only hear the bass! don't forget the most important thing, which is to relax. its not the DMC, so no one is judging you, if you cock it up, like get galloping when mixing, just grab one and do a rewind and fade down, like you were just messin or something, they won't know, but if you let it go on for too long they will realise the beats are out of time. |
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hahahah! sure thing! dave: heh.. I'll see what I can gather the courage to do.. don't want to fuck it up as we're both "showing off." |
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if its hip-hop, then play "cult leader" by non-phixion or....... |
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hang all dj's |
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bit harsh, no? some of em are alright. |
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hahaha! weakling: I don't have those either, and I have NO idea what crowd this place will be packing, but we'll play the hip-hop and see if they dig it! |
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MAAAAN. try and download it. its a seriously phat ass hiphop beat. the non-phixion one, that is. oh, oh......."next time" by gang starr. sorry, i'm doin some DJin soon, i'm in a total trainspotter mood. |
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hey man are you back,do you gots photos do you |
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just use your instinct, if you really need to change between vinyl and they aren't beatmatched, do a quick switch and either fade in/out kinda fast, or just move the crossfader over. Whatever you do, dont do long mixes! Nothing sounds worse than 2 dif songs playing at the same time at different speeds for more than 5 secs. Another trick: turntable A is playing the music, start monitoring turntable B in the headphones and stop it at the beginning of the beat. Let the B table spin while holding the vinyl down (so the music is held at the beginning beat still but the plate is spinning underneath dont push it down too hard or the plate will slow down or stop entirely Then, put the crossfader in the middle and get your hand ready to raise the volume of B, when A stops let go of B and raise the volume (dont forget to kill the A table - you dont want both playing at the same time) Anyways the point of this manuever is to have a fresh song come right in after the other one is done playing. They dont have to even be beatmatched, just bring in B after all the vocals on A are done but before the song ends entirely. By skipping ahead to the start of the beat on B the audience wont even remember the last song when they hear the start of the new one. You also avoid any intros, or other random stuff this way and most importantly no long crappy mixes |
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aint been able to scan em in yet, but i'll get em on soon |
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look forward:) |
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great thanks! the only tech I've got nailed is almost the one you mentioned.. it's beatmatched, and I hold the start of the next, set the fader to center, and when a chorus or part with no drums/no voices kicks in, I start the next one, and when the vocals on that one kicks in, I just kill table A immediately.. it's not too clean, but it works... also I can only do it if I know the song inside out, as I have to know when the chorus starts and so-on... I'll keep what you said in mind for when I don't have the time to beatmatch. |
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The crowd is jumping as the beats come to an end Rewind the track and start over again Hands are in the air, there are lots of happy faces The beats take your body and mind to different places Don't let the groove stop, got to make the joint rock This set is designed to put your body in shock It's so funky you have to move your behind Now give a shout to the D.J. - Rewind! The people shout for more of that crazy rhythm They know what they want and you know what to give them This is what you do, put your finger to the wax Flick of the wrist and spin the needle back The track is so fresh it's almost finger-licking The bassline is tuff and the beats are kicking A better record it would be hard to find So give that shout to the D.J. - Rewind! Rewind the track, spin the record and take it back Rewind the track, spin the record and take it back Rewind the track, spin the record and take it back Now that you've got the knack, take it back Rocking a party is no easy matter The hands of the D.J. must select the right platter If he doesn't then it's fatal, and it makes me weep To see people on the dancefloor falling asleep So get up off your ass and move your feet to this track No excuses, don't refuse this, there's no room for the slack Go with the flow, 'cos it's a state of mind When you shout to the D.J. - Rewind! I like it best when the beats are naked The rhythm pumps and there's no way you can fake it Ah yeah, that's just the way I like things The show must be over before the fat lady sings So listen up everybody, get on the floor And give it up 'till you haven't got any more One more thing, could you be so kind As to shout to the D.J. - Rewind! Rewind the track, spin the record and take it back Rewind the track, spin the record and take it back Rewind the track, spin the record and take it back |
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As KADO says: Your mixing skills are not important at all, it's the choice of records what's more important. You need to feel the vibe of the audience. It's important to know the records you have so you can go into any direction you want to go... I guess you don't know your friends records, do you? You already have some experience with mixing so be sure you really know which records your friend have and everything will be ok! |
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Don't try to 'lead' the crowd too much. Have some humility: I know it sounds cheesy, but try to follow the vibe of the place and play what suits how they're doing. Trying to get people onto the floor by shooting your load and playing something like 'DJ Jean - The Launch' too early is counter-productive. No one wants to be first on the floor, dancing alone to euphoric trance. It's a myth you should play what you want and that's the key to DJing success: utter balls. Unless you're at a particular night/venue/radio station specialising in that sort of music, or you're big enough that people have come to see you play, it doesn't work. By all means educate the crowd a bit with an occassional 'alternative' track and play things that you like that are popular and commerical (I find there's at least one track in the top 40 each week that I like, play that sort of stuff), but playing a set consisting solely of Ae, Merzbow and BoC in a dance/house club will at best make the crowd leave the dancefloor and at worst get you forcibly ejected from the club with a kicking from the bouncers at the order of the management. Everything Kado has said is spot on, particularly about girls. Girls are the key to a full floor. Once the boys are on the floor, you can get away with a few drum and bass tracks that'll generally keep the boys, but lose some girls, so long as you then bring the girls back with some pop/rnb etc. Boys will generally not get on the dancefloor/return to it after going to the bar/bogs if there are no ladies present. Re: girls going through your box. I sometimes padlock my bag shut for this reason and just leave the next 2 records out. I've also been slapped for asking a girl to 'Please fuck off' when she came in the booth and started fannying around with the amp. I then got security to have 'a word' with her and it didn't happen again. >:-D |
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I'll chat to you on MSN tonight about it mate. |
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great stuff guys! thanks! aestethics: well, of course I know some of his records, as we share the same passion for hip hop (although he's more into the gangsta stuff), but there are common interests. I have no idea how long we're going to play, but I'll just bring some of mine too and have him mix something in before he lets me take over... ceri: yeah, that stuff with playing what the crowd wants is what I figure will be hardest, as I despise most of the stuff that's on the hit charts here in norway right now.. I just hope it's a sensible crowd.. heh... giginger: great man! later then! |
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what does "monitoring" mean ? |
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hahaha! it kind of flopped tonight! we show up at 22, as the guy told us, but he isn't there.. so we go outside and watch a great free outdoors concert with bertine zetlitz and then later we go back.. the guy is there, but he tells us he hasn't got vinyl decks yet, only cd-thingies, so he apologizes and gives us free beer and then he tells us he'll have them by next saturday, so we're going back then... oh, well, more time to pracitce I guess! It was a good night, though.. got free alcohol and the total sum of the evening amounts to 0,- PLUS we're going back on saturday and we'll probably get more free alcohol then in addition to playing if he's got the decks.. the drunkenness may have impaired some of the logical structure of this post, but don't let that stop you! go out and have fun! |
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sounds like you had a great time ; how was the music played during this night ? |
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there was some guy who dj'ed with cds. |
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did he play good hip-hop ? |
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