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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:03 [#01634849]
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Because nobody wants to discuss music any more, they just want to post something they, and nobody else, finds absolutely hysterical. Be it blank posts or stupid pictures every topic now turns to mush after the first one or two posts.
If a music topic is created and you have an opinion then great, but don't just type "it is shit" or "i like it" just because you want to +1 to your points count. The moderators do their best but in the face of the sheer number of pointless posters there is a limit to what they can acheive. Sure there will always be light hearted shit going on but we shouldn't let it spread to every topic.
There have been a number of good (or at least discussion worthy) releases recently, although you wouldn't have thought it to look at the general content here. Let's try to get xltronic back to the music and back to the way phobia planned it to be.
The End.
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 17:05 [#01634855]
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my bum smells
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-16 17:06 [#01634856]
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Well the release is stunning in everyway. I can't stop listening to it. It's beautifully lush and complex.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-16 17:06 [#01634857]
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"There have been a number of good (or at least discussion worthy) releases recently,"
would you whisper it in my ear?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:07 [#01634858]
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I can't beleive you deleted your post just to fix a typo on the word whisper :)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-06-16 17:09 [#01634859]
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I agree with you, I'd ban all the people that post 99% shit (unless you're including me, and even then) but if they were to go you'd get hoary old fuckers that no one pays attention to anyway like Dannn_ and i_x_ten bemoaning their rights to post "nonsense" and emailling Phobia, it's lose-lose at the moment without RADICAL ACTION. The "humour" is fucking infantile, very boring. Horrible.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-16 17:09 [#01634860]
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better belive it! im only doing it coz ophecks is acusing me of getting to much points for correcting myself constantly..good thing i got that special magic button now.
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 17:10 [#01634863]
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you should be a moderator
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staz
on 2005-06-16 17:13 [#01634873]
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Alright, I'll go a bit more indepth on the whole Ranky business.
It sounds like a fucking lazy track with fucking lazy random noises generated by a lazy fucking cunt. It's exactly the same all the way (times two), and it's totally mystifying to me how he could ever even contemplate releasing such bland tripe. Seriously, it's like a bunch of sines randomly playing and looping and a barely audible, dull beat that wanks on in the background. I don't have a problem with the tempo, it's just the whole "meat" of the track that is fucking non-existant. It's fucking anorectic!
I really enjoyed the Analord series. Even though it had a few blemishes on its way (Analord 9 was weak, in my mind), it was a pretty great ride with lots of interesting, unique tracks between the records. This is why Ranky disappointed me so thoroughly, because it sounds, like I said previously, lazy and boring. I feel there's no merit at all to it, it's like a "piss you off" track. I guess I'm not into that "random-sounding minimalism" stuff, because to me it sounds utterly pointless.
Now smiiile.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-16 17:15 [#01634881]
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Yes, but apparently some peoples opinions on music are automatically worthless.
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 17:16 [#01634885]
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you included
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-06-16 17:18 [#01634898]
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Aside from analord what music shall we discuss? I've seen an influx of music related threads here. I dont get this.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-16 17:19 [#01634899]
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I am aware of that, thank you.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-06-16 17:19 [#01634900]
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I liked it so much I rattled off a series of "homage" mp3s. I am famous you know (in Norway....)
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:20 [#01634903]
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It doesn't sound random at all. At least I don't think it does.
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staz
on 2005-06-16 17:21 [#01634908]
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dog_belch from Ass Patrol (Chile) on 2005-06-17 01:19 [#01634900]
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You demon, you.
Hmmm, "homage" mp3s to Ranky, eh?
*rubs hands*
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nacmat
on 2005-06-16 17:22 [#01634910]
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spark - super robot battle deluxe
what do you think?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-16 17:22 [#01634912]
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That was my point exactly, I just summed it all up to "Worst. Track. Ever." cause it's just such a crappy track with watered out lowpassed drums, random sinebeeps like some stupid sci-fi computer console that has no meaning. It's probably just a joke too, so I just skip it and play something else instead.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:22 [#01634913]
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I haven't heard it, but if it is genuine and you think it is worth a listen then I will check it out.
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staz
on 2005-06-16 17:23 [#01634914]
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Actually, if it was just the noises and no beat, I think I'd like it more!
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:29 [#01634918]
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I like the beat underpinning it. I dunno, I just like the contrast of the track. It's so obviously not random.
impakt I love this theory you share with others that because you can describe certain technical aspects of the track it actually backs up your claims.
The Mona Lisa was shit because he just used paint on canvas.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-16 17:40 [#01634929]
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I hate how people back their meanings up with pretentious idm-feelings saying how they "understand" the track, and how it is ok by them if others don't, as long as they accept the fact that your opinion is more intelligent and artsy hence better.
I used that way of describing the track because it's just dull and boring, it could have been avantgarde-ambient, but instead he added some sappy drums and made it a sound like a bootleg done with a 1934 tape-recorder through a brickwall.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-06-16 17:41 [#01634932]
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i don't understand the point of this thread. you know as well as anyone that not everyone is going to be able to write an essay for every thread you make. not everyone here is able to talk about every item (although as a rule, they should probably not post in a thread about music they haven't heard) and not everyone who has something to say will always say it properly. besides that, the fact is that it isn't always easy to discuss music since it inherently transcends other forms of communication. this is a laid-back board and if someone bumps a slow topic by just posting, "cool track" it does more good than harm, imo.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 17:41 [#01634933]
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There have been a number of good (or at least discussion worthy) releases recently
well.. no, not that many (IMO, of course), unfortunately.. and those I've tried to discuss only end up with one or two other people responding, so I see your point here... it's frustrating.
however, about the people going "I like it" or "I hate it" here; often that is all one can say about a release while at the same time one doesn't want a thread about the release to go without your opinion... also it is better to get a "I hate it" than no replies at all.
and then there's the fact that we've been literally drowning in analords and untilteds.. it's almost a parody of itself.. if people could stop making one thread per track it may be a bit easier to keep up a discussion.. if anything, mods should close threads when there are three threads, one to each track on side a of any given analord and give directions to one thread for that analord (that "discuss this release" feature should work perfectly for this. People need to use that more, and the discogs need to be updated/cleaned!) or merge them to one thread at least.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-16 17:42 [#01634935]
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And how is it obvious that it's not random? Random doesn't mean "not good". He could easily generated that kind of melody with a randomizing function. In fact I've written reaktor ensembles that make better music with a single click on the randomize button.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-06-16 17:42 [#01634936]
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Well at least he did it first and didn't spend his time feverishly copying it, saying on one hand "I hate it" and on the other "Yeah, we might press up our Analord homages on vinyl, we ARE FAMOUS, you just haven't heard of us (outside of Oslo)"
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-16 17:43 [#01634938]
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I agree with you on this one.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:45 [#01634943]
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however, about the people going "I like it" or "I hate it" here; often that is all one can say about a release while at
the same time one doesn't want a thread about the release to
go without your opinion... also it is better to get a "I hate it" than no replies at all.
yeah which is why I said about people just wanting to increase points count.
r40f: one again you do a stirling job and completely misunderstanding the point and ranting on about something completely different.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-16 17:45 [#01634944]
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I've just downloaded all the analords (sorry to bring this up) and apart from 10 I am very dissapointed. It's a shame 10 isn't on sale anymore, or I'd have bought it.
Perhaps acid is just not my thing.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-16 17:45 [#01634946]
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Yeah man, Richard was the first to make melodic acid. And how you fail to see through our irony about the famous part just says it all..
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 17:47 [#01634951]
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analord is not typical acid. not in the slightest. for a start its fucking rubbish.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:48 [#01634953]
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Pretty much any melody can be created randomly then looped. Big deal...I know what random means you tit. Shit just because you can knock out a few half decent acid tunes of your own doesn't make you a god.
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staz
on 2005-06-16 17:49 [#01634954]
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I can't ever recall anyone talking about being famous...
But anyway.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 17:49 [#01634957]
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where is this ranky track you're discussing?
I don't like acid, but I check every track of these analords. I may like one of them after all...
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:50 [#01634958]
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you remind me of earthleakage.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-06-16 17:50 [#01634959]
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Overall i agree. Often times i make shorter posts because i might not have an elaborate thought to back up my "ace album" post. I only type essays on topics that i feel passionately about.
I have discussed music to great lengths with various members about artists that deserve it. The main artists that are discussed here dont interest me all that often.
I could go into lengths about yagya and why that album encourages me to make music for Jeck or someone else. People rarely discuss the electronic music i like.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-06-16 17:50 [#01634960]
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well, i have been known to miss the point. but it doesn't help when your thread title doesn't relate to the point you're trying to make.
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 17:50 [#01634961]
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unless you have built up some kind of following like richard, in which case it is almost impossible not to discriminate.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-16 17:51 [#01634963]
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I've never said I'm a god, and my musicmaking abilities haven't got anything to with it. I wouldn't think any better of the track if I didn't make music myself, I bet a non-musician would think even less of the track.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-06-16 17:51 [#01634964]
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Hmm, why do I think you've let on a few times that you "might" be famous, I'm sure I fucking made it up, seeing as I am a complete cunt and everything, i'm sure it's all in MY MIND AND NOT YOU BEING A TIT, AT ALL.
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 17:51 [#01634965]
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apparently, it's thursday night.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 17:52 [#01634967]
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the most exciting new stuff lately has been coming from artists on this board, btw.. check them out!
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-16 17:52 [#01634969]
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Um, well it does actually. Completely.
See at a basic level I am saying I don't like discussing music here because a bunch of complete and utter fucking wankers do everything in their fucking power to fuck perfectly good topics up with utter shite.
Actually I don't fucking like it here any more. It's shit.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 17:57 [#01634974]
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aw, c'mon.. I know you're already pretty good at ignoring posts you don't like.. if people post "tridenti" in the middle of a music topic just ignore it while others may find it slightly amusing (however even I see that that one is getting old already, and I just don't know when to stop...), which, imo is good...
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staz
on 2005-06-16 17:57 [#01634975]
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Come on now, be reasonable.
I thought it was pretty fucking obvious that that was pure bullshit, and if it wasn't, then I apologize for that.
Sorry for being a "tit".
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-16 17:58 [#01634977]
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I do agree with you on your initial post though, I also dislike random "funny-topics" most of the time and I'd much rather have good threads about music instead.
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OK
on 2005-06-17 00:38 [#01635224]
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yeah if you post about music, then someone will reply just to say how much the music you're talking about sucks, from that point on the thread becomes a debate of what sucks vs what doesn't, and later a flame war and nonsense.
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corrupted-girl
on 2005-06-17 00:40 [#01635226]
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i like your name + your av.
music what?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-06-17 00:45 [#01635231]
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i post a lot of shit here because that is all this place is worthy of
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-17 01:16 [#01635280]
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If aphex made it and it's total crap than it must be a hidden Image!
I like everything from aphex. Even Ranky.
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