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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-09 17:11 [#01627991]
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i don't know why either. but in the end it doesnt matter. im sure youd agree with a group of friends the more varied in taste of anything, the better. i was with a group of friends tonight and they are fans of coldplay, u2, travis, or whatever etc. but in the end does it matter? the only chance i now ever have of talking about electronic struff is on here, which is why i still post.
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staz
on 2005-06-09 17:12 [#01627992]
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if you label yourself as a strict fan and restrict yourself because of a subculture you want to be a part of, you're a fucking moron.
just enjoy all the great music around you, just about every genre has something really good to offer if you look carefully.
chill out.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-06-09 17:12 [#01627993]
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but how can they be music lovers if the music itself is less important than the lyrics added to it? to me "music lovers" are opened minded to many musical genres, not just rock.
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staz
on 2005-06-09 17:12 [#01627994]
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that should read strict fan of (genre), but i used those >
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staz
on 2005-06-09 17:13 [#01627995]
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thingies and it all erupted into a html error orgy. I HATE HTML!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-09 17:13 [#01627996]
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it's all bah humbug, the more diverse the better. i must be in the minority here when if i'm talking to a friend and he disagrees with me, i feel good not bad.
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-06-09 17:13 [#01627997]
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Really? You don't discuss Analords and the like with your friends in flesh?
[now that expression doesn't sound right]
I'm sorry to hear this
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-06-09 17:14 [#01627998]
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damn right
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-09 17:15 [#01627999]
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well, they're all about to become music journalists/critics so that's a bit different than your mates situation :) glad you still post here!
alberto, i don't know how..they sure know way more about music history than 99% of people on this site :)
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-06-09 17:18 [#01628001]
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I didn't know it's possible to be 'about to become' a music journalist. Where can I study this stuff? In my world it was always about brouad taste in music and good connections in the local music scene
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-06-09 17:21 [#01628004]
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While you're typing your replies, I suddenly though this was a little pretentious. My apologies, after all this alcohol I've consumed tonight
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-09 17:22 [#01628007]
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well, it's a bit different here..everyone who gets to work for this radio station has the doors opened for almost any media..there's a whole bunch of people who used to work for this radio station that are know real respected critics and journalists for various tv stations, magazines..out of 28 people who auditioned these 8 came through..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-09 17:23 [#01628010]
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know - now*
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-06-09 17:30 [#01628013]
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Wow - either it's a major radio station you're working for or a rather small community. Not to diss that or anything, I'm about to move back to a 'less than a million people' city in my home country and can believe the way the media business works there is exactly as you've described..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-09 17:34 [#01628016]
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well im still on probation..and it's a very small town although it's a capital (300.000 citizens)..the whole country has 2 million. the radio is known in wider region though and it's completly different in every way to any other radio in the country..completly independant.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-06-09 17:37 [#01628018]
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There we see our hero, Goran!
Using His machete-edged Wit and sopping sponge of Knowledge, Goran proceeds onward!
Onward thru the firey bowels, slicing the unworthy!
Trudging o'er the frozen tundra to deliver the Analord to His rightful throne!
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-06-09 17:37 [#01628019]
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That sounds really cool, an inter-regional independent radio station. We used to have that in Finland quite some time ago but I think it's different forces running the system now...
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2005-06-09 17:39 [#01628020]
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not to sound like an elistist prick, but really I listen to all types of music and personally I find some electronic music more inventive then most of the nonsense music being created today
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-09 17:40 [#01628021]
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haha right..to be honest i don't feel i deserve to work there..i know close to nothing compared to some of those guys. and analord isn't all that either :)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-06-09 17:44 [#01628023]
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you do deserve to work there, you know more about certain types of music than they all know combined and analord is a funny thing to say when you are typing in silent film speak.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-09 17:51 [#01628025]
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i seriously lack knowledge in big important bands..for example i know almost nothing about bands like pink floyd, velvet underground, sonic youth,.. and they can discuss stuff like how parts of certain songs sound different in various versions..i bet you would fit in excellent though :)
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2005-06-09 17:56 [#01628031]
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You'll find people like this everywhere. You can even see in this thread examples of electronic music anoraks turning their noses up at other types of music. Compared to a lot of other music, electronic doesn't have it hard. Also, Critics are respected nowadays?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-09 17:57 [#01628033]
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some are :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-06-09 18:02 [#01628043]
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regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with liking electronic music or not, i do find it really disturbing how many music lovers care more about lyrics than music...
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-09 19:00 [#01628120]
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it's easy to speak a lot about rock when you only listen to rock
if you listen to a lot of style you are less specialized in a style and that's what it is for a lot of people like you and me i think
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-09 19:01 [#01628122]
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lyrics can greatly improve a song with a good music but it can do nothing when the music is bad
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-09 19:03 [#01628128]
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by the way the guys tolstoyed is speaking about are imo older than the majority of us and that's why they know a lot more about rock than us ; maybe they are really fond of this style and when you are fond of something you learn fast and well
personnaly it's not my case : i love music and listen to practically every genre but i'm not fond of a genre in particular
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-06-09 19:07 [#01628137]
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I don't know how accepted electronic music is in everyone's local area but here electronic music is looked upon either as gay or "raver music". There's no knowledge or interest at all for the majority of people round these parts.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-09 19:12 [#01628146]
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in fact many people just suck
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-06-09 19:29 [#01628175]
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if 'electronic music' was popular all of us would listen to some other underground shite to remain tr00, yes?
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-09 19:36 [#01628185]
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yeah definitely =D
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-06-09 20:00 [#01628213]
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no, i wouldn't go by popularity.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-09 20:07 [#01628223]
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"well, they're all about to become music journalists/critics
so that's a bit different than your mates situation"
oh yeah, sorry. i didn't realise they assigned even more self improtance with regards their own opinion, you muppet.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2005-06-10 00:15 [#01628301]
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electronic is a beyond a niche to me. i remember countless bands i would love religiously for years on end.
it all ended after the many electronic bands. it severs the past from the now
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-10 00:27 [#01628305]
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i guess hip hop doesn't count as an electronic music to you people?
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-06-10 00:56 [#01628307]
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we from xltronic all appreciate electronic music..I notice that most people just dont have a clue what's more to find in music..and they all appreciate electronic music after a good introduction..so i think the answer is: no.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-06-10 01:50 [#01628320]
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thats a good point, lyrics or even a singing voice - almost has to be a staple in good music for some of the most avid of music lovers. why is this so?
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-10 03:25 [#01628384]
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you can't deny that hip-hop with MCs and AFX's music aren't really the same thing ; nevertheless i agree there's a strong link between both genres
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-06-10 04:08 [#01628421]
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Electronic music has no soul! You guys should know that by now.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-10 04:28 [#01628434]
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i think i didn't explain well (like usual). they don't have anything against electronica, they just don't find it enjoyable.. they're a bunch of real nice guys, not pretentious or something like that..they seem very open towards different stuff but as it happens stuff without lyrics they find not interesting :)
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-10 04:43 [#01628445]
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so they don't like classical music for instance ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-10 04:46 [#01628451]
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i don't know about that yet..some do some don't i suppose.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-06-10 05:03 [#01628474]
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maybe idm has got something that catch the interest of some people and not others
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-10 06:08 [#01628534]
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i think the difference you perceive between hip hop and idm or whatever you want to call it is larger than the actual difference: they're both two different forms of the larger whole of electronic music. just because you're favorite kind isn't popular right now doesn't mean another part of the mother brain isn't. i don't know why music largely made with drum machines, samplers and synthesizers would not qualify as electronic
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-06-10 07:08 [#01628582]
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they thought aphex twin were two guys..it appears rock fans are more narrow minded :)
does this smiley mean you are joking ? :) without it Your post would suggest that people who don't know aphex twin are narrow-minded.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2005-06-10 07:14 [#01628585]
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I have a large circle of friends, of whom 90% would class music as being very imoprtant in their lives. Some are in bands, some are DJ's, some work for radio and some are just fans. Most, if not all, would include electronic artists in a list of their favourite artists, but for the majority this would be more mainstream acts (Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk etc.) Out of all of them, only two or three appreciate electronica artists in the form of Aphex,ae and the like. Even some of those with a wide and varied appreciation of music refer to electronica as "noise" and "bleeps and static".
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-06-10 07:39 [#01628600]
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oh, that was a follow-up to Tolst. i smelled some elitism there in what You wrote down the topic.
i think this rock vs electronica thing is quite an endless matter.
we're talking about tastes, so on a rock messageboards people will say "how lucky we are that we don't have to buy those analords, fuck those aphex twins" or shit like that.
"the more varied in taste of anything, the better" - earthleakage is right
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-10 08:24 [#01628619]
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narrow minded in music terms is what i thought..imo he's among the biggest names of modern music..there was a question about him in that audition as well (they used his real name btw, not the alias) so i suppose im not the only one who think he's pretty important. ofcourse i don't know all rock stars either but i like to think i know the most important ones.. on the other hand im starting to appreciate rock music every day more, there's plenty of superfantastic stuff and there's just no end to it.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-06-10 10:01 [#01628743]
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that's right. i'm glad that You've discovered e.g. Legendary Pink Dots [not talking about "rock"] :) i hope You like at least one of their track, LPD music is very varied. They were sort of my teenage introduction to electronic avantgarde, if i may call them this way.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-06-10 10:02 [#01628745]
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