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Vestron
on 2005-05-22 02:51 [#01608099]
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reviews/explanations needed NOW!!!!!
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ame
on 2005-05-22 04:53 [#01608142]
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if 90% of the LA audience hadn't gotten their heads completely up their asses i would've at least tried to enjoy the show. the music from a scale of 1 to 10 imo was a 7. the people/energy was a fuckin negative 12. everybody just stood there, and that pissed me off cuz i dont want to dance like a moron by myself. all or nothing.
i blame partially the design of the venue itself, though. it had an encaved dance area in the middle so already it had a mentality of 'separation' as if the spotlight is only on the people dancing or some shit. but then it wasnt the most involving music either. thought it was quite boring actually. people kept telling them to 'crank the shit up' but none of the 'head pummeling machine gun music' was delivered, not least imo
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Vestron
on 2005-05-22 11:09 [#01608354]
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did they ever come back on stage? they played like 40 mins and then they were gone. their name was the only one on the marquee, they could of at least played over an hour. aside from that the music was great, but was in bad taste since it was undanceable 80% of the time. it was a pretty funny experience now that it's over. it seemed like so many people showed up expecting this huge spectacle and when autechre came out no one even knew (or wanted to believe) it was them. then when they left, everyone stood there waiting for some kind of big surprise...like 'just kidding here's our real set!'
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-22 11:39 [#01608390]
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they only played 40minutes? wtf ...?
ame, yeah tell me about it
the detroit show was the same way as was the chicago show the next night we tried to get a mosh pit going in chicago (to no / little avail) to get the people moving (albiet forcefully) but it didnt go anywher.e
people just stood there staring at them, sigh.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-05-22 11:48 [#01608399]
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5th show in 5 days, maybe they are tired
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-22 12:16 [#01608439]
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^^ didn't i make a threada bout that before the tour
...yes
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-05-22 12:50 [#01608478]
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at the seattle show, i was one of the people just standing there. eyes closed. head down. just hearing it. i was totally fuckin' hearin' that shit. it was ill.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-22 12:54 [#01608483]
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i hope @ the dallas show no one just stands there and looks. i dont wanna be the only kid dancing
this mosh pit though sounds like it could be interesting, i may have to instigate one
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-22 13:12 [#01608499]
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ok cygnus you're going to dallas then? ok good ill paypal you for the shirt
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-22 13:16 [#01608501]
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ill be at dallas & austin dude, but i hope i can get that money deposited from paypal quick enough before the show duuuuuuude
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-22 13:29 [#01608510]
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when is the show? usually takes 2-3days
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-22 13:30 [#01608512]
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show is tuesday
i can front you cause youre my holmes and all, i dont care. go ahead and paypal it tho
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-22 15:11 [#01608645]
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Ok Here's my review:
Everyone got an hour & half time block INCLUDING autechre, who played right at 12 and got done at 1:24. I know this because I was above the board and saw their reference clock there.
The venue was ok, the security were SEVERE dicks. My friend and I got busted smoking weed, but we didn't get the shoe so that was cool. Security was walking around with their flashlights on the whole time which was not only distracting and annoying, but in my opininion severely disrespectful. They also did a round and forceably made anyone in who was sitting down on the ground in their own "personal zone" stand up, which I thought was lame. Hardly any photos were taken as any electronics were banned, so any hopes of a recording are probably nill...
The music:
Rob Hall - Kinda fun. I enjoyed his first set the best. Oldies but goodies, not quite techno, not quite IDM... just solid grooves.
SND - ok here's the thing with these guys: 1.) Their set was really short. 2.) Their set was still good though. 3.) Their sound palette was somewhat limited 4.) Having heard some of the live AE sets from this tour, I found the basic & rudimentary similarities between SND's performance and AE's past sets somewhat distracting and perhaps even a poor choice. That could be purely opinion, but it seemed like SND's overall set sounded like 1 half of an autechre composition... somewhat under-realized, somewhat like an underpainting.
more to follow...
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-22 15:23 [#01608655]
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2nd Rob Hall set - bullocks in my opinion. Kinda sucked actually. Much more dancey which was entertaining I suppose, but still kinda sucked as he was severely fucking with the levels at the end of the 2nd set, perhaps out of sheer boredom.
Autechre -
what can I say? If you read any reviews from the other sets of the tour, it basically applies here too. Now that I am in a position to adequately comment, I do think that this shit kicked my face in, though I do have some valid criticisms of the whole thing... For one, the bass was much louder during SND's set. Thankfully (I guess) I did go home with no ringing in my ears. I thought it was an extremely dark set, though I have to say it was somewhat boring at times. This could be due in fact to my interruption by the security on several occasions throughout their set. re: getting busted for smoking and them making people around me stand up. I would say I missed about 15 minutes of pure concentration on the music because of these assholes. Ultimately, the entire set stayed at like 170-190 bpm, which I thought was invigorating, though I wish might have been changed up a bit. In a perfect world they would have played for 2 hours and did half of the set like this big long track they were performing, and the other half more changed, more "track" oriented. One thing I would also like to add.. right when the clock hit 1am, their set did somewhat change. They went into PRo Radii (which I admit is my least favorite song on the album), which interestingly enough, was one of the highlights of the entire set. I would stlll kill for a board recording of this tour just becuase of that.
Overall rating for AE 8/10.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-22 15:28 [#01608656]
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what did the security do with your weed
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-22 15:33 [#01608660]
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One more thing as an aside...
So I am standing in line at the bar and who comes walking by? Adam Jones the guitarist of Tool. Here's a near exact transcript of our conversation:
-"Adam Jones, how the fuck are you?" (somewhat bewildered) Great thanks!
-"Hey, I just wanted to thank you guys for your hardwork and shit, your a great inspiration. I'm stoked to see you here."
Cool thanks, yeah me too
-"Well yeah, I hope to hell you are planing on paying attention to this shit, because I guarantee this is going to inform your next record. These guys are fucking mental."
Heh, I know. What time are they coming on?
-"12, they should be on for like an hour and a half." Cool, thanks man. See you around. "Later!"
So yeah, that was kinda rad. I also saw BoomBip outside. Got into a staring match with him while waiting around outside of the venue. For the life of me I couldnt place who the fuck that was. I think I sketched him out a bit, b/c he was staring at my crew like we had our heads on backwards or some shit.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-22 15:35 [#01608663]
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My buddy dropped it on the ground right at the last second. After they left, we picked it up and just held onto it. Shit, maybe I should go finish that shit now...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-22 15:48 [#01608668]
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in dfw we call that getting blown out
in dfw, you will be blown out unless you are handing it to a musician onstage
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-22 15:49 [#01608669]
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handing it [marijuana] to a musician onstage
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-22 18:48 [#01608769]
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that sounds about right security was SHIT fuked at detroit no cameras, nothing (even if flash was off)
my buddy got a few pics off and some decent video i guess, i flashed my green laser like a couple times (each lless than a secnod or so) and this guy came up to me telling me he'll take it the next time he sees it
chicago was the same way cameras allowed, but no flash all fuking dicks, especially when we tried getting a mosh going.
sigh, what the fuck?!
yes, it was great (SND played some 20Hz and sub bass) which was mega hardcore.
i dunno man, : /
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2005-05-22 23:57 [#01609121]
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Wow. Sucks to be you guys. The security was completely lax at the Mezzanine in San Francisco. People burning all over the place and no one got in trouble as far as I could see. In fact, once inside I didnt see a security guard the whole night.
SF set was awsome, played for about 2 hours in darkness. Rob had a small amount of lighting in his area so I could make him out, but Sean was covered in shadows. Overall the set was a 10/10, the performance itself was 7/10.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-05-23 00:09 [#01609124]
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"Hey, I just wanted to thank you guys for your hardwork and
shit, your a great inspiration. I'm stoked to see you here."
i am the only one whose not compleatly clear on what this is refering to?
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caseybasichis
from Los Angeles on 2005-05-23 00:52 [#01609129]
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Hi, Does anyone have a recording of any of their shows during this tour? I wen't to the El Rey show, but I had a really long day and kept falling out off too the side. I suppose I'm still one of the lp5 holdouts and am not all that into either of their last two albums but I have a hazy reccolection of some melodic moments admist the torpid monotony of a lone drum machines.
I do have to say, from what I remember it was more enjoyable than the El Rey show for Confield (though i like that album much more)
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SPD
from United States on 2005-05-23 01:12 [#01609137]
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[a mishmash of posts from watmm by me]
Rob Hall worked it out really well. he was the only one letting people get down, and i danced then. it was great during his first set when there was no one on the floor and i had space to just really feel it. i was the guy out on the floor near the front early on just dancing alone. plus he played some things i knew like Black Dog and Brad Strider. unless they're doing a dj set Ae hardly ever do this. i like when people play old faves.
then there was SND who had a good rhythm going toward the end there. bout the first half or Autechre i liked, but then after (could have been me) i was just tired and everything seemed to just turn into thunderous bass booms. i particularly remember having a sit during Autechre's set last night, going "this should be a seated event". i'd rather just watch them because what they were playing wasn't really all that dance friendly. i really think it would have been better as a seated concert style show.
and i'm really just so tired of the El Rey. i never had any love for the venue in the first place. everything is so fucking loud and i hate having to wear earplugs at shows. not to mention the vibe kill patrol (who the fuck makes you stand up from your spot on the floor when there are no chairs left to sit in anyway) and rude bar tenders begging for tips after you get your $7 beer.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-23 01:47 [#01609149]
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This refers to my seeing, and subsequently, speaking with the guitarist of Tool at the autechre show.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-05-23 01:49 [#01609150]
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thanks, i realize that. maybe i meant i dont know who he is refering to when he refers to "you".
you reported it almost as though he mistook you for someone else.
or maybe i just dont realize what kind of relationship you would have to him.
why would he say "Hey, I just wanted to thank you guys for your hardwork and shit, your a great inspiration. I'm stoked to see you here."
to you?
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-05-23 01:52 [#01609151]
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like your post came accross kind of like you were a name-dropping semi-celebrity-conversing-with asshole and you didnt even explain yourself very well and when i expressed confusion you treated me like i was a moron.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-05-23 01:54 [#01609152]
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okay you know what. i was reading your report of the conversation with the identities reversed.
i thought he aproached you. so i retract my last post, because the fact that you approached him as if he should know who you are and take your advice rather then him approaching you as if you are someone he knew well makes the situation a little different.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-23 01:58 [#01609153]
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uhh... ok.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-05-23 02:00 [#01609154]
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Basically, I thought it was funny that I told him to make the next Tool record sound like Autechre...
Though I've been hearing Danny Carey has been eating up Vsnares lately. Seriously, if there is one band out there that would be sensitive to what is going on at the other side of music, it would be those guys. I'm looking forward to hearing what they have next
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thatne
from United States on 2005-05-23 02:04 [#01609155]
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goddamn that would send me to hear danny carey crank out some breakcore
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ame
on 2005-05-23 04:56 [#01609268]
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'i was one of the people just standing there.'
so was i. only because the people that did move were doing it ibiza/anthem trance/kissFM style.
'eyes closed. head down.'
same here. only cause i was falling asleep
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-23 07:09 [#01609400]
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hah!
:chuckles:
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