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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 13:26 [#01605175]
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I love pads. Trouble is, they are hard to create from scratch and I usually take 3 or 4 preset pads, add fx (filters, phasers, verb, eq, etc) then mash them all together to make one decent pad.
Anyone have tips for making a lush pad from something else other than already-made-pads?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 13:31 [#01605184]
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pads are pretty easy, actually. Just set the attack high, and the decay high.
How sophisticated a pad are you talking about?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 13:34 [#01605188]
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something that fills up a good amount of freq. levels. Something lush and epic i suppose.
Anyone can set attack and decay on a sound, but then you just have a preset sound with slow attack.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 13:38 [#01605195]
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Now how from scratch are you talking about. And what program are you talking about?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 13:41 [#01605196]
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type of program doesn't really matter.
From scratch, i mean - taking an unrelated sound or sample and twisting it into a whole new sound.
IE: turning a snare into a bass, or making a cymbal sound like a woodblock.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 13:54 [#01605204]
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Well, my advice is for pads you want to use sounds that are more sine in nature. And don't forget some sample and hold amplitude noisewaves quietly overtop.
Although I don't see how just programing a synth for a pad doesn't work. If the patch yours, its yours.
Pads are really simple. Just use a comb filter (not the one in reason! that doesn't sound like a comb filter at all, and there are only two instances of it). The grm tools one, and the audiomulch one are very nice. Remember not to set your resonance too high on your other filters too. otherwise it becomes too squirelly sounding. Low pass filters are always best for pads.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-19 13:55 [#01605205]
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I just have high attack, high decay, on 3 sawtooths, all detuned, with LFOs going on all of them to keep things nice and alive. I add plenty of reverbs, delays, and chorus effects for good measure, and EQing of course. Viola. A nice shitty pad.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-19 13:58 [#01605209]
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my advice is to ignore everything thats just been said and do it your own way :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-19 14:04 [#01605212]
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Who is Mike Jones?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 14:12 [#01605220]
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We should post our pads here and then discuss how we made them. However makes teh best pad gets a handjob from elusive. :D
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-19 14:15 [#01605222]
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i haven't a clue
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 14:58 [#01605274]
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dong?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-05-19 15:03 [#01605279]
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I don't get all this step-by-step business for making music. Surely it makes something enjoyable into a fucking shopping list.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-19 15:17 [#01605294]
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amen
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-19 15:20 [#01605296]
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I made a pad out of the sound of my mic dropping once. It was the best pad ever-all I did was drench the drop soun in reverb and add layers of chorus and flange with feedback.
Oh, how exciting events like that are! yes.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 15:37 [#01605310]
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Step by step: No.
Those were guidelines.
But yeah, I don't like walking people through techniques. I like informing people of tools, and give them advice on how to run them properly. You get into describing techniques, and you could spend way too much time describing something simple, and in the end, they usually don't listen anyway.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2005-05-19 16:00 [#01605342]
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this is why i like hardware, pads are super easy to make.
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-19 16:03 [#01605348]
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i likie not pads
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 17:15 [#01605435]
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Pads are simple!
They are easy to make, easy to use, and their soft nature usually make it easy on the ears.
Pads + Beats = Song (an easy song)
Pads are a quick fix, not a tool of melody. Good for atmosphere, and thats all they should be used for!!!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-19 17:18 [#01605437]
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actually, pads can be used for whatever the creator wants to use them for
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-19 17:18 [#01605438]
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did you hear my last track, the one for tridenti, it used a thing you recommended, as a drone really, a bass drone (instead of a pad)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 17:22 [#01605444]
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Musical Fascist! There is more to creation that freedom! True creativity comes from crafting magnificent things with restrictions!
4/4 3/4 5/4
They are all restrictions, but musicians use them anyway. Otherwise the music sounds... sloppy. Restrictions are what turn sound into music, really.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 17:24 [#01605445]
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Perhaps you could give me a link?
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-19 17:27 [#01605452]
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i give you my site (i should take off those drumtracks but im too lazy)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 17:34 [#01605458]
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Which one is it???
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-19 17:34 [#01605459]
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woah. Stupid moment... nevermind :S
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staz
on 2005-05-19 18:12 [#01605492]
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lush innit m8
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