|
|
big
from lsg on 2005-05-14 05:46 [#01598651]
Points: 23730 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
so i mastered my cd, but when listening to it on a less good cd player it still sounds a bit muffled though there wasnt digital clipping on my initial waves. also this track that doesnt go over -0,2db sounds alright i believe. also i extracted the wavs from drukqs and noticed none of the tracks go over 9 on my vu/ppm meter in soundforge.
questions: should i master to -0,2 db for consideration of people with bad stereo's (drukqs goes to 0)? i really dont want to cause ive now mastered most tracks to 0 db and turning the volume down makes it sound less good imo.
am i not allowed to go over a certain vu/ppm level (and is this for bad stereos too)? cause im proud to say my track woop goes upto 15 :D
|
|
deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-05-14 05:59 [#01598661]
Points: 6846 Status: Addict
|
|
I don't know what the hell VU/PPM is, at all. But, as long as you've mastered it so it's not clipping and distorting all over the place it should be fine i think, crap cd players just sound a bit crap.
|
|
big
from lsg on 2005-05-14 06:04 [#01598667]
Points: 23730 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
it's loudness having the same peaks you can still make a track sound alot louder..
|
|
big
from lsg on 2005-05-14 06:07 [#01598668]
Points: 23730 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
all this stuff is kinda depressing cause i dont know what the heck im doing. paul white pocket sized book 'basic mastering' doesnt help much either
i have a 200 page pdf on mastering dance music with 'waves' it still need to read
|
|
deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-05-14 06:25 [#01598678]
Points: 6846 Status: Addict
|
|
Yikes. I haven't the foggiest then old boy, is this something to do with compression? It's technical gubbins like this i just drown in, but if you're trying to get a few cds pressed then i suppose you want it just right. Many of the tracks i've had from you have been über-loud, but i honestly wouldn't worry about it all that much. I dunno, maybe it's not worth your time obsessing over The Listening Experience of people with terrible audio gear anyway. Fuck 'em.
-0.2db is quite a subtle difference from mastering at 0db though, i doubt anyone apart from you would be able to notice without listening out for it.
|
|
big
from lsg on 2005-05-14 06:34 [#01598685]
Points: 23730 Status: Lurker | Followup to deepspace9mm: #01598678 | Show recordbag
|
|
0,2db of course dont matter too much but ive decided not to make these changes in the blind, like turning off bass in the low while i cant hear it on my stereo for example
i do want to get it 'right' as you said, someone here is bound to know this though
|
|
big
from lsg on 2005-05-14 06:36 [#01598687]
Points: 23730 Status: Lurker | Followup to deepspace9mm: #01598678 | Show recordbag
|
|
the uberloud track is woop, because the original wave was clipping allover, i think, it looks really compressed in soundforge and i could turn the volume up alot more again :)
tracks that i make now are somewhat more in control
|
|
big
from lsg on 2005-05-14 06:42 [#01598688]
Points: 23730 Status: Lurker | Followup to deepspace9mm: #01598678 | Show recordbag
|
|
Ãt's the normal compression on the whole track as well as eq and normalization, limiting and maximizing or whatever with waves l2
|
|
deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-05-14 06:52 [#01598691]
Points: 6846 Status: Addict
|
|
Yeah, i'm sure somebody out there will know... i imagine there's a lot of "tips and tricks" with mastering to get the sound you're after but i'm not the guy to ask really. I just go by ear with stuff like EQ and limiting certain frequencies and all that. I think some of the cleaning up you can do involves making certain tones don't "conflict" with each other, having too similar a frequency or something but i'm far from sure. I've not noticed your tracks sounding particularly muddy though, so i don't know how much that applies.
|
|
nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2005-05-14 07:17 [#01598704]
Points: 6265 Status: Addict
|
|
eq
compression
|
|
big
from lsg on 2005-05-14 07:20 [#01598706]
Points: 23730 Status: Lurker | Followup to nobsmuggler: #01598704 | Show recordbag
|
|
tnx
the muddyness is from too loud mostly deepspace, also the stereo is wrong with my old tracks, that was corrected pretty easy though
|
|
Messageboard index
|