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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-12 13:56 [#01596570]
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I want to view the video about the animal being killed for fur, but it keeps making my browser crash (both in Firefox and in IE).
I've tried rebooting, uninstalling some codecs and even turning my firewall off, but nothing helps.
Does anyone have any ideas? It worked on my computer at work today, which is broadly similar to my home computer. I really want to show my girlfriend this video!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-12 14:01 [#01596575]
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Try saving shortcut as and running it in winamp
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-12 14:02 [#01596576]
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LAZY_TITLE you can copy this link into an external player.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-12 14:04 [#01596577]
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:) Thanks for the very fast response and help, but......
I copied that link and pasted it into the "play url" option in WinAmp - it said "Error Syncing to MPEG"...... argh. Any more ideas?
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-12 14:04 [#01596579]
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That is a sickening clip....it runs through a windows media codec, maybe that needs an update.
Not really that clued up, apologies, but thanks for the link
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-12 14:06 [#01596585]
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It is fucking frightening.... the most horrible thing I have ever seen. I have my reasons for wanting to show my girlfriend, I'm not just a sadist :)
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-12 14:12 [#01596593]
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Watching that clip made me feel really frustrated and powerless, I wanted to mame the guy in front of those animals and his family.
I don't think that lowers me to the same level, there is no excuse for such an inhumane act.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-12 14:14 [#01596596]
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It is absolutely vile. But I can't seem to play it!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 14:41 [#01596635]
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oh my fucking god. shit . fuck me. shit shit shit I didn't want to see that. I feel like being sick
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 14:47 [#01596639]
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read this (shocking) :
Undercover Investigators from Swiss Animals Protection East/International spent the past year investigating fur farms in China's Hebei Province and found that many animals, including dogs and foxes, are still alive and struggling desperately when workers flip them onto their backs or hang them up by their legs or tails to skin them. When workers on these farms begin to cut the skin and fur from an animal's leg, the free limbs kick and writhe. Workers stomp on the necks and heads of animals who, fighting for their lives, struggle too hard to allow for a clean cut. When the fur is finally peeled off over the animals' heads, their naked, bloody bodies are thrown onto a pile of those who have gone before them. Some are still alive, breathing in ragged gasps and blinking slowly. Some of the animals' hearts are still beating five to 10 minutes after they are skinned. One investigator recorded a skinned raccoon dog on the heap of carcasses who had enough strength to lift his bloodied head and stare into the camera, with only his eyelashes still intact.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 14:52 [#01596641]
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You can also write to J-Lo (an endorser of fur) and tell her what you think! This is her real address by the way
Jennifer Lopez c/o BWR 9100 Wilshire Blvd., 6th Fl. W. Beverly Hills, CA 90212
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-05-12 15:22 [#01596666]
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thanks for giving me a new set of nightmares and flashbacks for the next couple of years
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 15:28 [#01596671]
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After viewing a succession of videos on animal cruelty, I have instantly become a vegetarian, no jokes. I had no idea of how fucking horrific the killing process of an animal is. The thought of it now makes me sick to the gut. It's just fucking inhumane.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-05-12 15:35 [#01596684]
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all I eat is hamburgers :(
I guess karma has its way though, on the way out
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colani
from Retarded (France) on 2005-05-12 15:50 [#01596703]
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hahaha.
I know the process of making cereals and vegetables (because my father is farmer) and you would be freaked if you know the names of chemicals he spreads on the field.
those are 150 characters chemical names... recently he bought a fungicide with 40 grams of active product for 400€.
suposedly if you want to preserve nature, you have to buy "biological products", although biological method use chemicals too.
and people buy very few "biological products" because they are expensive and not so better tasty.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 15:52 [#01596705]
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What a sorry state mankind is at.
Are you a vege? I guess not as your dad is a farmer.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-12 15:54 [#01596712]
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what this video tells me is not, "i had better not eat meat" - it's more like, "i had better not buy fur from china" not that i would buy fur anyway, but really, one thing has nothing to do with the other. this is how one company does business - it is in no way related to anything else.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 15:58 [#01596716]
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no, I went and watched OTHER videos.
Here's a few for you
LAZY_omgs
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 15:58 [#01596718]
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happy 7777
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-12 16:02 [#01596724]
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i don't want to go through all those - what will they tell me that i don't know? that the meat industries are unclean, unsafe and harsh on animals? i already know all about that.
even knowing all about that doesn't mean you have to give up meat, friends. if you want animals not to suffer, if you want healthy meat products, don't go to any chains for food and only support organic/free range farming.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-12 16:02 [#01596726]
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thanks
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 16:05 [#01596734]
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It's not just chains though it's supermarkets. You can't escape it, that's the problem.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-12 16:12 [#01596751]
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you don't have any organic/free-range products in your supermarkets?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 16:15 [#01596756]
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I'm not sure if there's a relationship with organic and humane killing but I know for sure that there is no local produce in my local tescos.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-12 16:22 [#01596773]
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animals raised in a free-range farm should lead normal lives as they normally would and then are killed humanely without being pumped full of chemicals, etc.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 16:29 [#01596780]
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As organic is becoming more and more popular that statement is becoming less and less true.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-12 16:32 [#01596789]
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no it isn't becoming less true. don't be absurd. organic is becoming less popular because it is more expensive. and if your gov't is anything like ours, it's because the gov't only subsidizes the non-organic (read: giant corporate) farms. why? because they are powerful and can lobby, whereas the tiny indie farms cannot. it all comes down to economics and politics.
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colani
from Retarded (France) on 2005-05-12 16:34 [#01596795]
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"Are you a vege? I guess not as your dad is a farmer."
great cliche but actually I especially enjoy eating what we produce because it's good eating a vegetable that is still growing some minutes before.
They are mad farmers who abuses fertilizers and treatments but they can't really much because that's expensive of course, and finaly one sell 1000 kg of weat for 120€.
really, actually we are moderate with chemicals. we often use half the recommended dose.
also this summer we will make zucchinis and sell them as low as 20 € cents/kg, while in supermarket it will be like 1.80 €/kg at the same time.
but in a period of one week it can change up to 2€ for us vs 5-6€ in the supermarket. hopefully they do fruits up to 2 months long.
organic/free range farming. It's really difficult to face competition because you produce very little, and you have to fill dozens of papers proving it's really organic etc...
I know a smart guy who was in the organic side, but it has gone crazy, and it went bankrupt.
PS : ok all of this is off-topic but not that much
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 16:34 [#01596796]
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You are talking as a resident of the US and so I can't argue against what you have experienced. However, what I have said IS evident in the UK.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-05-12 16:38 [#01596809]
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So you're saying they're making it more difficult for people to produce organic? I have to say that I'm surprised as you live in France!
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colani
from Retarded (France) on 2005-05-12 17:04 [#01596848]
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I remember the record of organic plants cunsumption is like 60€ a year/a person. it's fairly low compared to what they really eat. in France, it's like 20€. wow.
I compare this to the energy problem :
Some people think we should use solar pannels, water and wind energy.
okay it's a good idea but obviously they didn't realize what the world consumes in electricity.
and I don't want to use solar pannels because I can't switch off all those useless lights on the road etc...
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