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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-09 08:37 [#01592476]
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Whats Logic like? I don't really know anything about it apart from someone I know tells me its amazing, but he's more interested in live instrument recording. And I don't see it mentioned here much. What's good/bad about it?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 08:53 [#01592484]
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Overview (a good 10 pages or so, click the links at the bottom to go to the next features section)
Basically, its a MIDI and Audio production program. Sequencing, audio editing, etc.
It comes with a massive load of pluggins, from effects, to synthesizers, a sampler, and a drum machine (all are of great quality)
Its the program I use, and I love it. My advice though, would be to go to the link, to see all the things it really has to offer.
Keep in mind, it can only run on Macs now (unless you have an older version. But apple bought it, and so all new versions are apple only)
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-05-09 08:55 [#01592489]
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(thats because apple loves teh cock)
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-05-09 09:00 [#01592498]
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Plaid used it during the "spokes" period
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-09 09:28 [#01592552]
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I'm hoping to be having a go on Logic 6 soon, since I want to use some new music software... shame it's so expensive, cause I like to buy stuff if I like it but £700 just isn't on.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 09:31 [#01592556]
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In my opinion, its a great price... youre getting a sequencer, an audio editor, and a fuck load of pro pluggins.
the effects, synths and sampler etc is enough to make full on pro tracks.
imo.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-09 09:38 [#01592568]
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It really does look excellent
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-05-09 09:40 [#01592572]
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You can get Logic Pro/Express 7 for a reasonable student-discount, if your eligible.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-09 09:45 [#01592584]
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Whats the deal with Express? Is it heavily shitted up or is it okay? 200 squids seems fair.
And yes I'm so incredibly eligable, so much you wouldn't believe.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-05-09 09:53 [#01592607]
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If I had a fast enough computer I would buy Express, it's mostly functions like distributed dsp-processing(?) and other hi-end stuff I can't think of right now (ie stuff that not essential for bedroom peeps like you and me).
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-05-09 09:58 [#01592615]
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Pro vs Express
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 10:23 [#01592663]
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its only 500 bucks with the student discount man!
go to apple.com
go to the store
go to the bottom left, and itll say education discounts or something
click and put in the info
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 10:25 [#01592673]
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Feature comparison for pro and express
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-05-09 11:00 [#01592714]
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That's the one I was looking for. And the discounts they have are crazy (in a good way)
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-09 11:45 [#01592760]
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Shite, thats an amazing discount. Pro and Express are both half price for students. Express = £98. I want.
How easy is it to get into? Assuming for arguments sake the only real experience I have is childish dicking around with inferior programs. And is it really complete product? I mean I won't need to get any more software synths or anything, at least for a while?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 11:53 [#01592773]
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I cant say for express... as Ive never used it, but pro does have a bit of a learning curve. But once you get into the mindset of how it all works, it becomes very easy and intuitive to use (imo).
But yeah, it should keep you all set as far as soft synths go, for awhile.
Also, you can upgrade from express to pro, so if you find that you love it, then you can upgrade and the other features (which kick ASS)
with express, you are getting a stipped down version of the sampler... but I do not know the difference. also, you dont get sculpture (a physical modeling synth), ultrabeat (a drum machine), and space designer (an incredible reverb unit)
but if money is an issue, id say just get express, and learn how logic runs, and see if its for you. then, at a later point, upgrade, but there should be more then enough to get you started, and to hold you over for awhile, i beleive.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 11:55 [#01592777]
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oh yeah, and youre on a mac right?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 11:58 [#01592778]
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hmmm, having a look around, it seems that the stripped down version of the sampler in express, doesnt let you make your own sample banks/instruments... you can only play the ones that come with logic. thats kind of a bummer.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-09 11:59 [#01592779]
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I sure am. Thanks a lot for your help by the way. I did notice that there was no mention of drums anywhere on the Express page, and the drum machine is excluded. What is there if theres no drum machine?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 12:05 [#01592789]
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the sampler comes with drum kits
These are the kits for the sampler that come with pro, but I dont know for sure if express has the same library. I THINK it does... but im not sure...
dance standard 808 909 hip hop jazz percussion pop rock techno
if youre looking for very idm like bleepy sounds, youll have to make them yourself, using processing etc...
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-09 12:14 [#01592817]
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I'm probably going to use breaks a lot so thats okay, as long as there is some drum setup there to begin with.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-09 12:18 [#01592822]
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yeah, so youd probably just cut them up on an audio track
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2005-05-09 12:24 [#01592834]
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the kits are the same
logic express does pretty much everything cubase sl can do
the only draw back is its a bit more difficult to get free AU plugins than VST
if you looking to make a living out of music, go with logic pro, if not, buy express
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