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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:00 [#01584968]
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I love this little thing.
Now beats are created live, on the fly, and easily. The onboard compressor and EQ is also surprisingly nice, and the ability to connect via USB to transfer sounds across is brilliant.
I recommend this piece of kit...however, only if you also have a computer sequencer, as the on board one is somewhat lacking.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:02 [#01584970]
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Details? Pictures? Link? I would like more info,
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-03 16:02 [#01584973]
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if you need a comp seq, whats the point?
just get a softsampler....
and a MIDI drum pad
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-03 16:03 [#01584974]
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I know the ensemble I sometimes work with uses one quite regularly.
especially live in a large room, it can sound very good.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:04 [#01584983]
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Mpc' are great for live/one take sequences.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:05 [#01584989]
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Zeus, is it you that I can't stand or funkmaster? It'll come back to me...
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:06 [#01584990]
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I don't know; I guess I just love hardware. I tend to set the tempo on the MPC 1000, jam the beats into it, and let it auto-quantize them. Then I just record it as audio and loop it within the sequencer. It sound great and it's just really easy to use (but also highly flexible)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:06 [#01584991]
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http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/akai_mpc1000.cfm
Here are reviews and pics of the machine
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-03 16:07 [#01584994]
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either way, I dont give a fuck
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:08 [#01584996]
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Both.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:09 [#01585003]
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Cheers.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:10 [#01585006]
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It could be you with your faux posturing but I don't think so?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:10 [#01585009]
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But do you see where I am comming from regarding the ease of use with hardware? Perhaps it's just a myth, or what one is used to. But I generally fund banging rythms into a seperate machine, or playing in stuff with analog/virtual analog hardware synths a really satisfying experience.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-03 16:11 [#01585012]
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I wish you the best of luck figuring it out.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-03 16:13 [#01585019]
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I dont oppose hardware... but if youre going to go the MPC route, I just think it makes more sense for another model. the 2000 or something. much better sequencer.
so yeah, portability is an issue, but you could get the akai drum pads (a controller with the pads of the mpc).
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-03 16:13 [#01585021]
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thanks,
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:15 [#01585027]
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I just use the 1000 for fairly short loops which can then be expanded in a main sequencer. They can be jammed in the MPC quickly, and then cut up and fucked about with as audio files within the project.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-03 16:21 [#01585042]
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well we all work our in own ways. :)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:21 [#01585043]
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btw Zeus, just went to your website.
Your music is good. What software are you using?
Nice to see a developed sense of melody going on for a change. :)
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2005-05-03 20:04 [#01585597]
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dont tempt me fool/ ive wanted one for years!!! you know the value of pain so i suggest again you not tempt me!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-03 20:42 [#01585611]
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ah, thanks man :)
I use mostly Logic 7, Mach 5, Absynth 2, and Reaktor 4, and Garritan Personal Orchestra.
in the songs on my website at least...
I also have a virus rack xl that Ive been using on newer tracks. Nothing finished though.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2005-05-03 21:11 [#01585624]
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now you tempt me zeus. i want the virus synth also! you dont know what im going through, thanks for bringing up these memories i thought were all too painfull to recall.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-05-03 22:49 [#01585659]
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what about the rs7000? Thinking about getting that one.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 00:12 [#01585677]
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It's got a much better sequencer I hear.
But I don't need a better sequencer tbh.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-04 00:21 [#01585679]
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MPC1000
MPC4000 <-owns the 1000
Roland mv-8000 <- comparable to the mpc's, only cost less. Also, you can hook up a dedicated monitor and mouse to it. This is the one I want.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 02:18 [#01585730]
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the MPC4000 isn't as portable and is more expensive. I agree that it is the superior option if you aren't using the MPC with another sequencer, however...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-04 04:28 [#01585784]
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I like doing bits on hardware (single pieces of gear), in bed, with headphones on (much easier to switch on an electribe when you wake up in the middle of the night, than boot up your PC). That said, PC is still 90%+ of what appears in finished tracks.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 07:43 [#01585909]
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Yeah.
Nothing beats the ease of manipulating samples in a computer sequencer.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-04 12:17 [#01586224]
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now this is what Im talking about
watch the vid too...
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2005-05-04 12:53 [#01586251]
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one thing that mpc have is that option of playing one pad/sample over itself, with different velocity and pitch
i'm not sure how can you trigger something like this with some midi controller, but maybe i'm wrong.
i was surprised to see how 1000 is actually small. mine 2000 is so fucking heavy and unportable.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 18:04 [#01586790]
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I use that feature a lot to get really nice fat layered drum sounds.
I think Prefuse 73 uses mainly MPCs and a few other samplers, and not a computer. I found that really surprising at first, considering the glitchy nature of some of his stuff.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-04 18:07 [#01586801]
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It's great how you can get all sorts of different drum sounds without fucking having a clue how to make a half decent track.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-04 18:10 [#01586813]
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i often laugh, because people often talk bollocks about technical stuff when the most important thing is the fucking composition. everything else comes second.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 18:12 [#01586816]
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Ah, trying to show off to our friends, are we?
Sorry, but this topic developed at a point of the day when the forum wasn't occupied exclusively by wankers like yourself. So I actually gained some interesting knowledge and had a conversation free of your uninteresting insipid trash. And just because you're a failed musician yourself, does not mean you can accuse others of being the same.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-04 18:34 [#01586880]
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Yeah, I look forward to buying all your MP3 releases.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-04 19:09 [#01586935]
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wtf is your problem?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 19:14 [#01586940]
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Thank god, someone nice is here.
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k_maty
on 2005-05-04 19:15 [#01586943]
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This is an A to B conversation, so C your way out
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 19:16 [#01586945]
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And there goes another thread, trashed.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-04 19:30 [#01586968]
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fitting, seeing as its your first post in this thread
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k_maty
on 2005-05-04 19:46 [#01586996]
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Bitch please, I know you were enjoying the guy on the right's thumb up ya triflin ass
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 19:51 [#01587004]
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How much was the Garritan Personal Orchestra, Zeus? Is it really useful for doing lush, realistic sounding string parts?
And is that what Venetian Snares used for his latest Hungarian album, or was him just sampling random bits of Bartok and whatnot?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-04 21:56 [#01587183]
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I can post stupid pictures of you too dipshit
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-04 22:05 [#01587185]
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it was about $250
its good, but not great. Its great for the price... but if youre looking for REAL sounds... go for miroslav or something (like couple thosand $ I think though...)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-04 22:33 [#01587189]
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Naw... he uses an MPC2000 and a keyboard control unit with protools.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 23:59 [#01587200]
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Ah right, ok.
At the moment I use the Roland XV5050 module for string sounds, and it's very good actually. Weird velodicity response, but that can be edited out quite easily.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-05 00:06 [#01587201]
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I have a motif rack... although Im trying to sell it.
dont use it much, and I need cash. Hows the 5050?
fuck... I just remembered I have a dr-770 in my closet. I need to bust it out and play with it. :)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-05 00:11 [#01587203]
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the 5050 was a relief after the trashy Proteus 2000 that I bought! The editing isn't terribly user friendly, but it has a really nice, warm, overall sound.
I really want a dr-770! The prices on things like that seem to be going up all the time. I should get one while I can.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-05-05 00:17 [#01587208]
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really?
I see em on ebay for $150
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sine wave
from Ireland on 2005-05-05 00:27 [#01587212]
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I spotted Rob Brown using an MPC 1000 on the current Autechre tour.
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