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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-29 12:24 [#01580415]
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Eh.. we borrowed a dvd-set with twin peaks and there is a pilot on it.. normally, pilots precede series, but it seems to be taking us in quite a bit... anyway, I searched for a while, and found that people said we should stop it at 90 minutes (if we had the extended version), but they didn't say if it started overlapping/ruining the series or if they just didn't like the remaining stuff... can anyone elaborate?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 12:26 [#01580417]
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i think the pilot is fantastic. i don't know why you should have to stop it, though.
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shibumi
from United States on 2005-04-29 12:28 [#01580421]
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i believe that some versions of the pilot, the european cut for example, ended up revealing much more information, and in places contradictory information, that the original.
Thus, stopping it early avoids spoilers.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-29 12:29 [#01580423]
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yeah.. that's what I thought.. the extended pilot is 113 minutes, while the original was only 90 minutes... so you think we should stop at 90 minutes then?
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2005-04-29 12:32 [#01580424]
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You never saw Twin Peaks before?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-29 12:32 [#01580425]
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i wanna see this.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-29 12:34 [#01580427]
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only a few episodes when I was very young... and then I forgot about it until my friend now borrowed the set from someone...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-29 12:35 [#01580429]
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you don't think it overlapped the show? I just found something saying that the last part is also used in episode 3..?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 12:40 [#01580434]
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i don't know. i didn't watch the show. just the pilot and the prequel.
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2005-04-29 12:41 [#01580435]
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If it doesn't tell who was the murder I wouldn't worry ;)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-29 12:41 [#01580437]
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fuck.. I'm confused again...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-04-29 12:42 [#01580441]
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Hello.
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shibumi
from United States on 2005-04-29 12:42 [#01580443]
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Before TP was sold to ABC as a series, Lynch/Frost raised money to finance the production of the pilot episode by signing a contract with Warner Home Video. The contract gave Warner Home Video the rights to sell the pilot episode as a movie on video in Europe (not knowing whether the pilot
would result in a series, Warner wanted to ensure they could
make their money back.) In order to sell it as a movie, the contract stipulated that the pilot must stand on its own and
have a "closed ending" where the murder of Laura Palmer was resolved.
Lynch/Frost had planned for and expected the pilot to be picked up and turned into a series, and thus had not written
such a resolution for the pilot. When, during the filming of the pilot, they were reminded of their contractual obligation, they filmed the ending described below and gave Warner Home Video their "standalone" European movie, even though the ending did not make much sense and does not jibe with events in the TV series.
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shibumi
from United States on 2005-04-29 12:43 [#01580444]
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or, uh, yeah, click the lazy link
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 12:43 [#01580445]
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it does, though
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-04-29 12:43 [#01580447]
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Oh and the DVD-set I have has the Uneuropean Version, so you should be okay.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-29 12:47 [#01580450]
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how would I know that without seeing it?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-29 12:50 [#01580453]
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great! Thanks, guys! You even got me RIGHT at the doughnut-spread!
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2005-04-29 12:58 [#01580457]
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Did you check the faq?
"The European movie ending should probably be avoided if you are watching the TV series for the first time. There is a "catch 22", though: you should see the pilot before watching the first TV episode for important background information and context, but the broadcast version of the pilot is not available commercially (see question G4). If you cannot borrow a copy of the broadcast pilot version from someone, you can easily "edit" the video version, while watching it, as follows:
- About 90 minutes into the movie, after Sheriff Truman introduces Cooper to Lucy's nightly donut spread, and the jail scene with James, Bobby, and Mike, there is a scene where the Sheriff visits Josie. "It must have happened right around this time yesterday," Truman says to Josie. "I'm afraid," Josie says. Next there is a shot of the traffic light, blowing in the breeze.
- Stop the movie at the next scene where we see Laura's mother sitting by herself on the sofa, smoking. Up until this point, the movie and broadcast pilot are identical."
I think this is it.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-04-29 19:53 [#01580859]
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while on the subject has anyone here seen Fire Walk With Me and what is your opinion.i am intrested of buying it
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 19:55 [#01580862]
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i found it to be an excellent film that scared me a lot. i recommend it a lot.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-29 19:55 [#01580863]
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a lot.
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oyvinto
on 2005-04-29 19:59 [#01580864]
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i have to go through all the the twin peaks as well. i have seen some of it, but not all. a shame, rellay, since i'm quite fan of lynch.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-29 19:59 [#01580865]
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if you liked the series, you'll like the pilot.
it is a lot darker though - but this is kind of unavoidable, seeing as it tells the story of the last 7 days of Laura Palmer's life.
to me it has been the scariest Lynch-film, as in: scared me the most with physically noticeable effect.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-04-29 20:41 [#01580892]
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yeah why not buying it i am not going to lose anything at it
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-29 22:18 [#01580944]
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pilot? got a bit confused there, I meant "fire walk with me" ofcourse.
doh.
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