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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-28 17:09 [#01579494]
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I would like to know the basic difference between Dance and Trance music. Can anyone of you tell me what is the most basic difference between the two? How can we judge something playing is a Dance or Trance? Thanks
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-04-28 17:10 [#01579495]
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this was posted a while ago, a second time, but will probably answer your question
ishakur
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-28 17:10 [#01579496]
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Thanks
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-04-28 17:12 [#01579499]
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the descriptions of the genres are mostly jokey but the song samples is where the answer lies
i just always think of annoying divas singing pathetic lyrics when i hear 'trance'
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-28 17:12 [#01579501]
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Thanks
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-04-28 17:14 [#01579504]
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I always thought "dance" was just a generic term. Trance has those big cheesy synths going on a lot of the time (unless it's prog trance, in which case it's more chinstroking and loooong), hard house has that offbeat UNTZ unnnh UNTZ unnnh UNTZ unnnh bassline... i'm trying to think of more subgenre examples but it's just not coming.
I used to read mixmag many moons ago, nuff said. It's all a very hazy and confusing area.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-04-28 17:14 [#01579506]
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dance or trance music these days is a fucking disgrace. i feel embarressed for it when i hear it..
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-04-28 17:16 [#01579508]
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mainstream electronic music has never been worthy of being listened to..
mind-numbing music.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-28 17:19 [#01579511]
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One Dave's Trance is another Dave's Bangin' Choons is another Dave's Dance Music is another Dave's Techno is another Dave's Club Classic is another Dave's Ibiza Anthem...
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-04-28 17:22 [#01579513]
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imho thats not strictly fair comment. i was a big fan of big beat and the ilk, thats how i got into electronic music mainly.
also i listened to a lot of early rave music when i was a wee nipper through the charts and thought it was wicked at such an early age.
its getting much worse tho. most mainstream dance thesedays is just old classics rehashed with power anthemic synths and cliché vocals layered on the top. utter drivel.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-28 17:26 [#01579516]
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Dance is music mainly orientated for Dancing, like club. Trance is more emotional, less for dancing. More Melodic as already said.
To me its the difference between golf and pigeon putt - you get to use the same idea of get the golf ball in the hole, it just differs how you get the ball in the hole.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-28 17:26 [#01579517]
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boom-boom-boom-buh-buh-boom-boom-boom-buh-buh
boom-boom-boom-buh-buh-boom-boom-boom-buh-buh tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh-tsh
boom-boom-boom-buh-buh-boom-boom-boom-buh-buh
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-04-28 17:27 [#01579519]
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what has this got to do with pigeons?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-04-28 17:27 [#01579520]
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exasctly
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-04-28 17:28 [#01579521]
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also trance is dance music but dance is not trance.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-28 17:46 [#01579532]
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I copy-and-pasted this thread from the Dance eJay forums. I'm sorry.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-04-28 17:47 [#01579533]
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you're itching for a dance ejay competition. and you knowit.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-04-29 01:21 [#01579700]
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dance is dancy, trance is trancy
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-04-29 01:39 [#01579714]
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Trance is a form of music best characterized by quarter note drum patterns, and 16th/32nd note rhythm synthesizer patterns. It has a meter of 4/4 always, with a quarter note bassdrum acting as metronome, and quarter note high-hat hits offset. This unwavering drum mechanism may be constantly tweaked with for effect, with the attack, decay, resonance, frequency, tone, delay, reverb all given liberal treatment. The tempo is generally around 130-150 bpm.
The rhythm section consists mostly of a repeating 1-4-5 (A-D-E) 32nd note sequencing arpeggio, and a bass section of minor whole notes usually drifting through the aeolian scale (though not always). Additional rhythm sections are added and subtracted every 16 measures (sometimes 8, and sometimes 32) to add weight and anticipation to the composition. The bass chord will usually change every 4 measures. A typical trance song has 2-4 bass chords, tops.
There is a lead synth, and it will be a simple minor scale melody of 8th notes, looping every 4 measures (some have 2, some have 8. Some even have 16).
Whereas...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-04-29 01:40 [#01579715]
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...Dance music is music composed, played, or both, specifically to accompany social dancing. It can be either the whole musical piece or part of a larger musical arrangement.
Dance music includes a huge variety of music, including traditional dance music such as Irish traditional music, waltzes, rock and roll, country music and tangos. An example of traditional dance music in the United States is the old-time music played at square dances and contra dances.
From the late 1970s, the term dance music has come to also refer (in the context of nightclubs) more specifically to electronic music offshoots of rock and roll, such as disco, house, techno and trance.
Generally, the difference between a disco, or any dance song, and a rock or general popular song is that in dance music the bass hits "four to the floor" at least once a beat (which in 4/4 time is 4 beats per measure), while in rock the bass hits on one and three and lets the snare take the lead on two and four (Michaels, 1990).
Dance music works usually bear the name of the corresponding dance, e.g. waltzes, the tango, the bolero, the can-can, minuets, salsa, various kinds of jigs and the breakdown. Other dance forms include contradance, the merengue, the cha-cha. Often it is difficult to know whether the name of the music came first or the name of the dance.
(from Wikipedia)
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2005-04-29 01:46 [#01579716]
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i remember when trance was good. :\
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-04-29 01:53 [#01579718]
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i remember when i liked trance, if only i knew what i was missing..
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