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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 09:22 [#01577662]
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Can I link up an old Mac g3 smurf tower running os9.2 with a brand new mac laptop running the latest mac os?
I will want to run Cubase 5.1 on both machines and have them linked together and running in tandem, so I will need to use classic mode on the laptop.
I will be using the G3 for midi sequencing and audio recording whilst the laptop will be used for soft synths and plug ins.
Ideally I'd be able to drag n drop parts from one computer into another,
If this is possible and if so what would be the method to achieve it?,
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-04-27 09:24 [#01577663]
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Hmmm, i am not sure about that at all. I imagine that both setups would have to be running the same operating systems though.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 09:25 [#01577664]
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I'm prepared to install 9.1 on the laptop if I need to.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-04-27 09:26 [#01577665]
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I know nothing about macs to be honest. I think that might be a general thing. I could of course be completely wrong.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-27 09:47 [#01577671]
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I don't know if there's some magic way to connect the computers in your setup other than MIDI, and I don't know if that would even work either. I wish I knew more about that stuff :(
Have you looked at the forums on apple.com? There might be some people with the same problems, or have experiences with it.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 10:10 [#01577690]
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I can sync two Cubases with MIDI but this would only be a partial soloution, ideally I would want to swap audio and midi parts between the two systems with the minimum of fuss, I have a feeling I can use firewire to achieve this but I'm just making sure before I get the laptop.
I'll check the Apple board and Synthzone but I thought I'd check here first cos it's the board I use the most, cheers.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-27 10:52 [#01577740]
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Yes, you can do this the operating systems should make little or no difference. To be on the safe side transfer all the files you want to keep to the newer computers' hard drive and erase all other programs from the old one exept Cubase.
It would be a whole lot easier if you invest in a mac mini.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 10:56 [#01577748]
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how do I do this and what's a mac mini? I don't have the space for another monitor in my studio, does it have a built in one like an I-mac?
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 10:59 [#01577751]
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Oh and there is a lot of software I will need to keep running on my G3, all hardware editing stuff that won't run on OSx, will this cause any problems?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-27 11:05 [#01577762]
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I'm guessing if you've streamlined os9, and have no problems with the current configuration it'll be fine.
If you were going or are plannig to go pure osx, you might want to have a peek at XPostFacto which enables you to run osx on you Smurf. I have it on an old 8600/250 and it works (slowly), but I think the G3 will handle it.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 11:11 [#01577770]
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I'm reluctant to go pure OSx because all the software I have is for 9 and isn't even available on X (stuff like MESA and Nord modular editor ect, all pretty essential for what I'm doing).
I have steamlined my system and it runs perfectly apart from the odd rare Cubase crash, I just wanted to link up another computer to increase the amount of plug ins, soft synths and audio channels I can use.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 11:12 [#01577773]
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Is it just a case of linking up the machines with Firewire? are there any extensions, control panels, apps etc I would need to do this?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-27 11:26 [#01577779]
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LAZY_MAC
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 11:34 [#01577787]
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cheers for the link, I must say they look very cool (and very cheap), it's a shame they don't come with a monitor built in but I guess that would be defeating the object, out of interest why would that be easier to link up than a laptop?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-27 11:51 [#01577801]
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They would be just the same to hook up but at half the price!
You could use one monitor if you get one of these gizmos or similar.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-27 12:53 [#01577834]
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a few things. classic doesnt support midi at all so cubase will not even boot. there is a fully functional osx editor for your nord available, it's beta but it's as good as the old one. you can get it here:-
http://www.clavia.se/G2/Nord_Modular_OSX_Editor.htm
if i were you i'd just network the 2 computer to transfer information, you could also look into creating a MAX patch to sync the clocks in cubase. i'm sure that would be possible. I'm reckon you could prolly get most of your software on OSX now, metasynth etc just recently got ported.
hope this in some way helps, good luck!
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 07:43 [#01585910]
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I've managed to get Cubase 5.1 up and running in classic mode on somebody elses I-Mac, MIDI seemed to work OK with OMS.
I'm quite happy to have an original OS9.2 running on a partitioned hard drive though if that's what it takes (I'm presuming that's possible on a laptop?),
Would Networking the two computers interfere with Cubase and OMS? (unfortunately I need to use OMS because my MIDI interface requires it), I've noticed that you can't have the "Appletalk" extensions open whilst using OMS/Cubase, are these required for networking?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-05-04 07:49 [#01585912]
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Beware, newer apple powerbooks/ibook can't be booted in os 9 anymore. the firmware only allows os X.
Appletalk vs OMS is a bitch, and I don't think networking with it is possible. I could be wrong though.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 08:13 [#01585924]
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Hmmm , looks like this could be more of a hassle than I thought, as long as I can get Cubase 5.1 running in classic I should be Ok provided the Midi sync works.
If I can't network the two computers I guess I can always transfer data by burning discs etc, would have preffered drag n drop though
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-05-04 09:04 [#01585967]
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you want v-stack
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 09:15 [#01585977]
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looks good, I could still have the OMS/Networking problem though if I use my G3 Cubase to sequence , also it doesn't say wether OS9 soft synths are supported (I know they aren't supported in Cubase 6.
I would like to run Cubase on the laptop to master stuff as well, I plan to record my PCI soundcard on the G3 then transfer the files over to the laptop for mixing and mastering.
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