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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 01:57 [#01572906]
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i know ceri made a topic like that some time ago, but as you know the search function is down so i cannot bump it.
does anybody of you have any midi controller? self made? evolution or behringer?
i mean i really need something like this. i just get crazy clicking around on my sequencer like a retard and i would want to have some "analog" control... so i thought about buying myself a neat midibox setup. the thing is - i cannot decide which one...
i touhght about a few setups
1. evolution uc-33 and afterwards, a midi keyboard like for example
evolution mk_499c - although it doesn't really have to be a evolution keyboard... but the price is neat !
the whole thing would cost me about 2000 zloty - about 500 dollars
2. this and that - two neat behringer controllers - these are fucking huge! vinyl size each one and 10cm thick! - and afterwards maybe a very simple midi keyboard without knobs and sliders...
3. omfg!!! - or this thingy - 2500 zloty (over 600 dollars) - but all in one solution... 24 knobs, 9 sliders... awesome :D
wht do you think about that? once again - did you have contact with any of these?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-22 03:07 [#01572923]
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If you are looking for something that is just knobs and sliders, than the mk499c is probly the one for you. I would suggest something that has keys though. I never thought I would really need them, but they come in really handy!
I have heard some pretty poor things about the behringer this. Although it would be neat to have non-anchord knobs on my controller.
I have an m-audio O2. Its perfect for my needs (although I like sliders more than knobs, so I probly will be getting a knob unit sometime in the future).
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-22 03:11 [#01572928]
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Yeah, if you have the cash, (and the desktop space) go for the omfg!!!
7 octave keyrange!!! and 24 knobs with 9 sliders!!!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-22 03:12 [#01572931]
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I mean a slider unit sometime. Something with pads and sliders would be neat..
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-04-22 03:14 [#01572934]
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Although now fairly overpriced/underfeatured compared to the competition (it was the best reasonably cheap one when I got it though), my Phatboy does me fine. I've got a load of templates/overlays I've made for it for various softsynth. Mainly, it's used as the "knob box" for Audiorealism Bassline (303 emulator) I tend to automate sliders for most other things, but occassionally when I want particularly expressive panning/fading, I'll use it for that too.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:17 [#01572936]
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i can't get a phatboy in poland.... but i can have the whole doepfer range
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:18 [#01572939]
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lot of knobs - but for 350 dollars way to expensive
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:20 [#01572942]
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the omfg!!! is kidna really nice.... but 47 lbs weight and 2,5 meter isn't really a handy setup i could take into a club when playing live...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-22 03:21 [#01572944]
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64 knobs sounds like more of a drawback than a benifit. I would end up forgetting where I assigned everything.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:23 [#01572945]
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what have you heard about the behringer controllers ? this is very importatnt for me...
behringer has never been a good brand for me - although these babies look super-slick
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-04-22 03:25 [#01572947]
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LAZY_KORG
LAZY_ALESIS
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:25 [#01572949]
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exactly !! you could use stickers but that would be a fuckin mess !
but i know that doepfer is high class stuff... no shit
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:30 [#01572954]
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thought about the two - the alesis is really expensive in poland and i don't really like it... it's evreything and nothing. i mean - this keyboard is way to small to do something with it (although you have these "octave" buttons). and plus the alesis airfx controller (which is shit in dark places cause it works with light) it isn't really a deal for me.
the microkorg - may be.... but the mini-keys are way to small for my thick sausage-fingers. the 16 touch pads and the joystick are kinda neat - but the pads make it twice that expensive as it would be without them...
these too have not enough knobs and options for me. i need a minimum 24 knobs with some presets.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:32 [#01572955]
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if there would be an 64 keys version of "omfg!!!" i would buy it instantly
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:33 [#01572958]
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what i need are FACTS - people who have used these and can tell me if they are reliable or not... i heard that behringers in usb mode can crash your pc easily sometimes
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:35 [#01572960]
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why is just me responding in thes thread !!??
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-22 03:53 [#01572967]
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Em 411
Not comprehensive, but gives you a good idea about what you might be getting into...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 03:57 [#01572972]
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right - not comprehensive but kinda neat ! thanks !
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 04:13 [#01572979]
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more reviews !! more !
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-22 10:40 [#01573252]
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UC33 is tottay great!
i'm also buying it!
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-22 10:59 [#01573268]
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i have the behringer fader. It's great, does exactly what it says on the tin and the automated faders are great for scaring your cat. Don't believe everything you read on the net. no complaints!
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-04-22 11:12 [#01573281]
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I'm gonna buy this. it's a modular midi controller LAZY_TITLE
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-22 11:34 [#01573295]
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great thing..u won't be sorry!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-04-22 12:36 [#01573406]
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i want something with endless rotary knobs like the behringer... but if behringer sux then ... hmm!
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-22 12:54 [#01573445]
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erm it doesn't=] what is meant to suck about it exactly?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-04-22 13:39 [#01573532]
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oh, i don't know. maybe it doesn't. i guess i'll get one thanks!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 13:39 [#01573534]
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wow this looks fantastic... haven't studied the site yet but i has to be expensive like hell !!
behringers - audio analog mixers are shite, the hardware is a bargain because they use cheap parts. - mixers get broken very fast. so i'm kinda afraid that it will be the same with the midi controllers - i mean i don't want a situation live that i move a slider about 2 millimeters and it suddenly raises full volume at once !
and this can happeln with shite faders
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 13:41 [#01573542]
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hm... istniezott - tell me how much you'll pay for this - they have no info about that on their site...
but this looks really slick.... i hope it will be about 500 bucks - then i would buy it
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-22 13:46 [#01573559]
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i read that their mixers were noisy just, not really an issue when you're dealing with midi. it might not be the slickest piece of kit on the market but it's 1/3 the price of some other midi controllers that are basically the same functionality. if you've got money exploding out of your pockets by all means go and pursue a more expensive model.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 13:49 [#01573568]
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depends what you are asking for.
i mean like for example analog mixers - a crossfader for a vestax costs about the same like a whole behrigner mixer :D
so it depends.... but i mean i want to know if behringers midi modules are a real bargain or real garbage. - when i'll have to exchange the first pots after 6 months, then i rather want to dave the money and buy a professional doepfer one ?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-22 23:57 [#01574099]
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now that's great - i have send an e-mail to mawzer and i got an e-mail back that it doesn't exist....
hm... smells like fake
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-23 01:23 [#01574107]
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They might be waiting for the release date (late july)... then you will have to get it then...
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-04-23 02:53 [#01574124]
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indeed, you have to wait till it's released. the price will be 1000 bucks or something for a complete mixer setup. but I probably won't be needing that much stuff. we'll just have to wait till it's released.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-04-23 04:26 [#01574162]
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1000 bucks... :| christ.... i could buy so many stuff for that money...
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-04-23 04:34 [#01574170]
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yes but that would be for a complete setup I think. I think you could buy the stuff you need for 500 bucks. the 1000 bucks isn't even sure. best thing is to wait till july.
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big
from lsg on 2005-04-23 07:50 [#01574311]
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do you have controllers with just knobs?
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-04-23 08:15 [#01574320]
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ofcourse
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