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I am drunk and this is NOT religiously based. I want to rant and to start an argument. Thankyou. What gives one human being a right to take another's life? I couldn't care less if it is the mother or not. It's life. Killing life is murder, and nobody has a right to "choose" to murder somebody else. Sure, that life may not be particularly self aware of rational at that stage. But it is in a constant state of flux, moving towards higher levels of rationality and self-awareness. If you are going to argue that killing an unborn baby is fine because of its lack of rationality or sense of awareness (and those are strict conditions, with no others) then I could take that and use it to justify killing any human being (not matter what the age) which lacks in those areas. You could kill an adult in coma, for example-they are not exhibiting signs of being self-aware, or rational, or particularly sentient, are they? BUT, they have the POTENTIAL to be (and will be, providing the accident isn't too deadly) once the ordeal is over. An unborn baby will (providing something doesn't go wrong) also become a more obviously rational human being also. I know you are all mostly pro abortion so try and debate without getting increadably angry and rude and insulting (which people here, including myself, seem to enjoy doing a lot. ) Lalala. As soon as you start placing conditions on what makes life "valid", you go on a slippery slope downwards into a grey area void of definities. It is not "primitive" to be against abortion, it is merely setting down that human life has intrinsic worth, and stating that another human being has no right to end life just because at the specific point in time it lacks certain qualities (such as rationality or self awareness.) |
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What if you've been raped and are carrying a rapists baby? |
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I think it's up to women to decide, not teenage boys. |
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What if you've been raped? Well, I am not making this from a judgemental position, or from a position of saying "this is what x should do" in a situation. If a raped woman aborts her baby, I can completely understand that course of action within the circumstances (and I would probably do the same thing.) What I would do, however, does not change the fact that aborting a baby is wrong. It's just what I (and many woman, understandably) would do. |
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What if an ultrasound scan shows that the child is a weasel? |
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how for fcksks can you be drunk at this moment and write such a long serious story..? i'm pro abortion btw..there are way too many people |
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I like weasels. |
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my avatar is against abortion |
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wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
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Why does that not surprise me? |
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You would, you fucking idiot. |
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When my first girlfriend got pregnant, she ended up deciding not to keep it, even through my tears. I cried endlessly, and when she and her mum threw me out of their house saying what you just said (minus the teenage bit) it upset me. Of course it's in her body, but goddam that was also my little 'n in there. I understand if a women gets raped or for other reasons , and i feel it should be allowed.. but there's also another side wich i find dark, women who don't take their responsabilities and abort 3 times a year, yet who are probably against the death penalty. There should be a line somewhere, protection for a start.. "oh, i'm pregnant what a surprise that was, didn't notice i was being shagged" |
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'I know you are all mostly pro abortion' rule of life #1: never assume anything. as for abortion, is it fair to bring up a child that is unwanted/unloved/living in povertyy/abused/whatever circumstance just because abortion wasn't an option? |
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why are the people who speak out against abortion almost always men? |
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I'll repeat: this isn't from a judgemental or even from a practical ethical perspective, more just in the realms of "right" and "wrong". Lots of women speak out against abortion. And also, can people who are pro abortion stop the insults and actually offer some reasoned arguments. |
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I had a shit start to my life, my teens were dramatic and today i'm a mess. But i'm glad my disfunctional parents didn't opt for abortion, even though i wasn't really brought up by them. qrter, i'm ot sure that's the case, unless you mean in politics...in wich case it's not a surprise. |
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I don't know. I like sprouting my crappy ideas when a bit drunk, don't you? |
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this sounds like someone hasnt done their R.E homework. |
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If i have an idea i think to be crappy, i tend not to shout it out. |
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I'm pro abortion, and I personal belive that some people out there should be forced to abort their children. |
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Yeah it is. You're trying to dictate what other people can and can't do. Shut your fucking face. A fetus is a fetus, it's like a fish or a dog. People are animals. In ancient greece, if a baby was born deformed or something, they put it on a goddammned mountain and let the GODS decide. That's how it should be. |
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mappatazee, you: a) haven't actually read anything I have said beyond "I am against abortion"-otherwise you would have actually noticed that I am not dictating this in a PRACTICAL sense at all. b) being insulting to cover the fact up that you haven't presented an argument yet. |
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Argument for what? So what if something is potentially sentient. The sperms in my balls are potentially sentient if they meet up with an egg in some unfortunate girls falopian tubes, just like a fetus is potentially sentient as long as it isn't ripped out of the uterus or whatever that sack is it feeds off of like a parasite. God. |
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what if you're so drunk that you'll have sex with the biggest geek on earth; the one that makes you puke when you think about him, would you have "it's" baby? hobbes: how old were you when this happend? |
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I know what you mean old boy, and that episode sounds rather rough. Sex. Not always pretty. As it said somewhere in the Young Ones book "Batchelor Boys", studies have proven a link between banging away like a policeman and pregnancy. |
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My god you are bright! -crazone: early twenties. |
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thanks for your views, but I think this thread was a bit of a ridiculous decision on my part. |
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Ha ha! I kinda miss the young ones, i should pop a tape on someday, and enjoy a bit of poetic destruction. |
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i cant believe anyone payed attention to a post that starts off with " I am drunk and this is NOT religiously based. I want to rant and to start an argument." |
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please, for the love of god, listen to my song mr. drunk. |
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dance my friend, |
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Yeah it was really nice talking to you, you prick. |
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That was kind of the hook for me. |
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whether or not to abort must depend on the individual circumstance, there is no rule that covers every situation... |
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pls cls thrd kthx bye |
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I am against war |
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war is naughty |
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DELETE THREAD PLEASE. I MADE A MISTAKE. thankyou. :( *crying* |
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Foetuses are not conscient beings. |
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me too but i feel mildly ill. totino's pizza rolls > Jacks pizza rolls |
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i don't like abortion, but i can't pretend to know what it would be like to have an unwanted pregnancy. desperate women will get abortions whether it is legal or not. i would hope a woman would decide to keep the baby, but ultimately i believe it is her choice to make, not mine, and certainly not the government's or some uber-conservative right-wing wacko. ! |
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"women will get abortions whether it is legal or not" exactly |
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It's a shame your mum obviously felt the same way. |
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I am but I'm not. Put it like this... I'd neverr have a child aborrted but if otherr people want to it's up to them. |
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Well I am the same. I disagree with it and don't think it's anybody's choice who lives or dies, but I am not going to force my opinion on anyone. This thread was for discussion. But highly predictably, people assumed I was preaching and ignored my constant affirmations that this is in the philosophical realm rather than the practical and just resorted to wonderously original insults. |
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What are your views on post natal abortion? |
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and you have ignored mine. isn't is a much better practice to allow abortion in a safe clean environment instead of a woman having to go down some shoody back lane to have it done? as i already said, it will happen if it is legal or not |
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Roman Abromovic's mum died after a back street abortion :( |
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I don't know if anyone saw that thing on telly with the 3D ultrrasounds. The baby isn't just a lump of cells at the cut-off point forr aborrtion. |
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I still think it's a perrson's choice. |
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