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after finding out that richard d recorded a lot of saw1 & 2 and the early analogue bubblebath stuff to a nakamichi 680zx tapedeck and reckoning that stuff sounds lovely fuzzy and warm i decided to pick one up a few weeks back. have to say, its definatley made my stuff sound much nicer, takes the sheen nicely off vsti's imho - its no magic pill of course but its a nice tip i thought id share with you dudes seeing for my 1st post here :) |
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Welcome to the board. Nice to see you. I master all my tracks using video cassette. |
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hello, care to share any tracks? :) |
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Try to take the tape and crunch it to get that chewed-up tape sound that's on some of the Surfing on Sine Waves tracks. And yes, tape do offer benefits to electronic music. And hey, welcome to the board. Nice 1st post. Here's to many more. |
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Boards of Canada also do that with all their music. I do that to some of my stuff, but I havent' mastered anything in a year, so it will be a while before I pull out the old tape deck again. |
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hi, this is a very nice first post |
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welcome to the board, but I think I'll need further clarifying... do you mean that simply putting stuff onto cassette and then recording back to comp does some "automatic" mastering? |
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well, if you boost the signal when recording to tape you can saturate the signal, giving an analogue-type compression. |
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hmmm... too bad I don't have much money for hardware these days... |
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analogue is so first quarter 2005 |
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just get proper cables, connect Your ol' tape-recorder to Your cheap soundcard and...........cheers !! |
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thx for the welcomes :) yea its the saturation thats does it alright. speaking of boards of canada, they actually sampled the transport mechanism of a cassettedeck for "kid for today" :) as for how expensive those nakimichi decks are - they do come up occassionally on ebay (its where i got mine) but watch out - the ones from the early 80s are the ones to get, the modern naks arent a patch on the old ones. i did a lot of research & the 660zx & 680zx are the "studio-quality" ones - they were actually developed to rival reel-to-reel & adat. they were 1000+ when released but can be picked up for 150-200 now.....the audiophiles can snatch them up or drive the price up though ill post some of my music next week... |
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welcome! yes i always did think it was a tape machine. i actually did it before they released that one not nearly as nice. |
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btw i dont like that track of mine very much and it is very old. i only posted it because of the tape machine bit. |
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Good thread. I had just got out of certin slsk rooms and had long disscussions about mastering, and the fact that RDJ masters to tape was brought up. The points brought up in this thread were disscussed as well. What decks do you all use? How do you push the sound out to tape/back to the comp (inputs/mixer/etc)? |
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Rubbish! Richard couldn't afford a nakamichi deck in saw 1 times. Where did you read this? |
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yes exactly... it was probably c-90 cassette, maxells or tdk or whatever cheap consumer brand there was everywhere in the 80's to early 90's on the planet-mu forum he did mention buying old military equipment nowadays, like tapes and electronics components because of the higher specs they have and cheap price when you can find them |
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mastering to cassette tape will make your music sound shit, kind of like when you recorded a vinyl record to tape when you were young. richard was lying if he said that in an interview. tape saturation is done best with a reel to reel 1/4 inch two track. overload the signal, bang... gorgeous analog compression... but it's not magic, and you can't use it on every tune as a mastering technique. |
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it was a nakamichi 680zx for sure.....lets just say i didnt 'read' it anywhere. the military gear, etc came after.. |
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I'm inclined to believe Jivver on this one. |
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welcome! :) Alex: as am i |
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some of his early stuff really does sound as if it was recorded to cassette, the sound quality is not good. there are dropouts and spots where the tape sounds slightly chewed (and it does not sound the least intentional). whether or not he used a second hand nakamichi, he certainly wasn't using state of the art equipment... the rumor that i heard circa 1993-4 was that some tracks were mastered to a "boom box" but who knows... |
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don't you make a confusion with the spectrum zx80 computer? :D name's a bit the same, but you seem to know what you are talking about so i don't think you made that big a mistake. lol honestly i don't have much authority on the subject, but like qrter, i tend to trust jiverdicker who might have more of an hindsight on that time and place. |
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mastering to cassette? what a load of crap. just read what pylonbitch said. I sometimes run a beat trought my cassette deck to pump it up a bit. works very good. |
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you all suck go to hell everryone one of you |
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therre is a name forr that |
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Vlari-Try to take the tape and crunch it to get that chewed-up tape sound that's on some of the Surfing on Sine Waves tracks. I think the reason some of "Sine waves" sounds crunched or distorted is because orange juice was spilt on the master tapes. Famous Aphex rumour no.234543 I know but the one that's 100% likely to be true. Personally I love c90 tape my self but only for sampling, I would never master to cassette, warmth and saturation or not, the quality in the end doesn't cut it IMO. |
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Oh, there are loads of other old RDJ tracks that has that "effect", but I uses Surfing as an example. The orange juice incident could be the case even though the rumour says nothing of when the master was orangejuiced. |
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Yes, that's the thing I suppose, we don't know when it happened. It could have been after release which would pose another mystery as to the drop outs and crunching on that album. Hmm. |
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that shit about reel-to-reel sounds being nicer is all a load of shit. hype for the weak-minded. |
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You're getting lazy with your posts. Come on, you can do better than this "oppose first post+throw in a general insult for good measure" routine. All the best, me. |
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welcome and thanks for the tip :D I'll keep that in mind for my next amient album |
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