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offline hobbes from age on 2005-04-04 18:04 [#01553238]
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Your internet musn't be very good.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-04 18:06 [#01553240]
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I used to read those kind of books too, when I was about 12
or 13. they would give me the willies.

stories about spontaneous combustion and people disappearing
in Russia and then suddenly re-appearing in Europe three
months later, with no recollection of what happened in those
months, or about recorded voices of supposed ghosts.

if you like that kind of stuff, you might have seen/still
want to see The Stone Tape (it's out on dvd).


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-04 18:10 [#01553243]
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"This site is hosted and maintained by the International
Directory of Magnetic Hills, Gravity Hills, Mystery Hills
and Magnetic Mountains"


now there's a man making good use out of his shed.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2005-04-04 18:11 [#01553245]
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And it's all an illusion!
I've actually "done" the one on the isle of man.
Yeah i know.


 

offline xceque on 2005-04-04 18:14 [#01553247]
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I felt cheated when I found out it was just an optical
illusion.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2005-04-04 18:28 [#01553255]
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Still feels weird though.

There's also a "fairy bridge" on the isle of man.
I'm not sure i ever want to go back.


 

offline xceque on 2005-04-04 18:30 [#01553256]
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Fairy bridge? Does some little gay goblin leap out and
bugger you when you try to cross?


 

offline hobbes from age on 2005-04-04 18:34 [#01553257]
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If you don't say hello to the fairies when you cross, yeah!
Or something very similar.


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2005-04-04 18:54 [#01553266]
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:/ I thought it said 'supermarket'.


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-04-04 19:24 [#01553279]
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i was kidnapped by ufo's


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offline hobbes from age on 2005-04-04 19:32 [#01553291]
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I was kidnapped by a train.

So, did they hurt you?


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-04-05 00:55 [#01553351]
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"we can't hear vibrations at 7hz but this infra sound can
cause heart palpitation, dizziness, loss of balance, nausea,
depression, fear, and mood changes. the usual source of
infra sound in office buildings is the hvac system. if you
suspect infra sound touch the wall. if you can feel a
vibration you probably have infra sound. (lyall watson)"

"what would you think if a gaunt pale-skinned loner next
door were obsessed with your ten-year-old daughter; stared
at her from his window as she played, took nude pictures of
her, wrote letters and poems to her, took her on picnics,
and spent hours sitting on his couch with her? charles
dodgson did all of that with little alice liddell whom he
eventually immortalized in his now famous book about
"wonderland" using the pseudonym "lewis carroll". "

And loads more gems...

I could read these for hours, check it..


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-05 01:54 [#01553357]
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i don't deny the possibility of tangent universes, if those
are even supernatural?

read 'the golden compass' from the "HDM" trilogy.

also, when on psilocybe mushrooms, i have been a witness of
waves of telepathy when in conversation with a friend. It is
the oddest thing imaginable.

When sober, i cant help but thinking 'it was just a warped
perception of things' when i really just know it wasn't only
that.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-04-05 03:36 [#01553385]
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thanx for the link, creeeepyyy !!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-04-05 10:36 [#01553607]
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I don't 'go forr it'


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-05 12:49 [#01553682]
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i find the following equation useful:

supernatural = primitive model of reality + vague awareness
of unknown reality + imagination...



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-04-05 13:34 [#01553715]
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Awesome, thanks for the link. Almost too awesome.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-05 13:52 [#01553730]
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offline Anus_Presley on 2005-04-05 15:15 [#01553770]
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useful how? forr worrking out yourr shopping bill superr
quick?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-05 15:25 [#01553775]
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that's rright.


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-04-05 16:27 [#01553811]
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no worries guys, im not sure if that stuff is supernatural
or not but its a frickin' good read..!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-05 19:02 [#01553946]
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don't take any of those little facts as actual.. well..
facts.

common sense alone will tell you that they miss nuances.

for example:

"flying machine
one day in 1970 when an air force pilot flying an f106a jet
fighter over montana went into an "uncontrollable flat
spin", the aircraft took over and 1. ejected the pilot, 2.
recovered from the spin, and 3. landed safely all by itself.
the craft is on permanent display at the (united states air
force museum in dayton ohio)"


but when you follow the link, the story is:

"The aircraft on display (S/N 58-0787) was involved in an
unusual incident. During a training mission from Malmstrom
AFB on February 2, 1970, it suddenly entered an
uncontrollable flat spin forcing the pilot to eject.
Unpiloted, the aircraft recovered on its own, apparently due
to the balance and configuration changes caused by the
ejection, and miraculously made a gentle belly landing in a
snow-covered field near Big Sandy, Montana. After minor
repairs, the aircraft was returned to service."


the first text suggests that the aircraft ejected the pilot,
while the second text suggests that it was the flat spin
that created a dangerous situation which forced the pilot to
eject.

also "landing safely all by itself" is something different
than "made a gentle belly landing" - it's still incredible,
mind you, but the first text glosses over a lot of details
and tries to make it sound more spectacular.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-05 20:29 [#01554018]
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i think they miss a lot more than nuances, but qrter is
right. the site is very entertaining but they need to hire
a fact checker...


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-05 20:56 [#01554031]
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xltronic hypothetical quiztime:

imagine putting on a costume for a party. when you arrive
at the party, everyone reacts to the costume as if you are
not wearing a costume at all. in the course of time, you
forget that you are wearing a costume. you gradually become
the person defined by the costume. you live a new life,
devise novel strategies, seek different experiences, evolve
different values. you live your life in this costume, marry
and have children.

years later you meet a stranger, who demonstrates
unequivocably that all you believe you are can be traced to
the features of the costume, and to the way that everyone
else has reacted to the costume, shaping your identity. at
the core of your self-identity is an illusion, a deception,
an empty shell, except for the faint, forgotten and distant
image of the identity that was replaced with the costume.
the stranger also informs you that when your costumed self
dies, the faint and forgotten self will continue to exist,
but will be too weakened and deprived of will to act, or to
choose a new costume. then the stranger offers you the
opportunity to replace the costume, and forget that you met
him and what he told you. will you accept the offer? just
wondering...


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-05 21:21 [#01554048]
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Can I put on a costume that looks like Epohs?

Then can I... touch myself?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-05 21:23 [#01554051]
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touch your what?

never heard it called that before..


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-04-06 04:16 [#01554231]
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I VANT TO BELIEVE ! HAHHAHAGHAKHA GKHGKHGH GGRRH.....


 

offline JLefrere from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-06 05:04 [#01554252]
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"i believe that everything is natural and that nothing
existing can escape being that. "

you wrapped my belief up in one sentence.

hey i hadn't heard about that hill in the isle of man, and i
spent months there as a kid...will have to check it out some
time!


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-04-06 07:23 [#01554316]
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I think a better question is: Do you believe in phonomena
that cannot be described by math? Absolutely.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-06 07:34 [#01554321]
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Well if you think of math in terms of modeling phenomena
then that's true - but it's even true about the most prosaic
natural phenomena - they can't be fully described. In order
to fully model the universe you need to construct a model of
the same complexity - and where would you put it?

"It's only a model"

"shhhh"

But can things be modeled and described within these
accepted limitations? Even something completely random can
be graphed. The moment humans are aware of a phenomenon
their minds attemt to comprehend it and construct a model -
even if the model is as flawed as astrology or Dante's
circles of Hell.


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2005-04-06 08:01 [#01554337]
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I can see how some would think the topical question is
stupid. If anyting that exists is natrual then the topic
reads: 'Do you believe in things that don't exist?' Which is
why I stated my other question.


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2005-04-06 08:25 [#01554352]
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yeah... I totally believe in it.


 


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