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offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-24 17:46 [#01760041]
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Yeah, I did the same, read up a little bit on it and saw
vinyl mastering was quite different... hmmm.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-10-24 20:17 [#01760237]
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i would be mastering everything i have to cassette tape if i
had a recorder out here. i love the lofi sound.

tape hiss rules.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 03:09 [#01760418]
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Reason 3's mastering stuff is better than previous reason
vesions, but I agree it's still not a patch on a lot of VST
mastering tools.

Process makes a good poiint: I'd also say mastering is what
you do the final, single track, rendered .wav in something
like wavelab. Mixing of the seperate channels needs to be
learnt/done first and should be done in Reason is you want
it quick and dirty. If you're a perfectonist, export each
track seperately to a wav, then load all them into another
proggy that supports vst and do your mixing there. Or, as
someone mentioned, re-wire it into another program and do it
that way.

A few basics:

Give each instrument/channel its own stereo space (panned to
a slightly different place).

Ensure there's not too much overlap between channels at any
given frequency. If you up the EQing for say your bass at a
given frequency, drop it by the same amount for any other
instrument at the same place.

Cutting is better than boosting. This is particularly true
of bass. Don't just boost the bass, cut other frequencies a
bit. Also, even a bass will often contain a few high
frequencies. Boosting those, rather than the bass, will give
it a bit more presence, without it being overly loud and
murky.


 

offline impakt from where we do not speak of! on 2005-10-25 03:22 [#01760427]
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I use Izotope Ozone3 for mastering, I simply love it. Here's
a 980kb PDF guide to using it correctly : OzoneMasteringGuide.PDF


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-25 03:28 [#01760431]
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It's a definite improvement but the audio export still sucks
massive cock.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 03:46 [#01760449]
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Ha ha, you think it's bad in 3, try using the one in Reason
1!

Seriously, it's like they gave the work experience boy that
bit of code to do. You listen to it afterwards and it sounds
so flat/robbed of detail that it's like it has been through
a poor quality bandpass filter. I used it once, before
taking to recording it "playing" in wavelab.

They've certainly improved it in the later versions, but it
still sucks.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-25 03:48 [#01760453]
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Of course, monkeys like me never used to check the quality
and still often forget, so I'd do something then export it,
mp3 it and upload it. Quality sucks hard. I need to do more
quality assurance :D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 04:02 [#01760472]
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I only really bother exporting each track with demo cds.
Most stuff just gets recorded as a single track then
mastered in wavelab. Some "just for fun" tracks that I have
no intention of even uploading, I use the built in audio
export.

Decent exporter is up there with decent compressor on my
Reason wishlist. Everyone reckons s/w compressors are crap,
but that's just not true. It's just that so many of them
are shite, people reckon they all are. If reason 4
had something as good a PSP's vintage warmer, it'd be mint.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-10-25 04:06 [#01760477]
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Never ever use compression for a purpose other than
distorting your audio in strange and amusing ways.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-25 04:11 [#01760485]
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*unless you do dance music. Then overuse it, so the audio
never ever drops below -2db, even during the "quiet bits"
when that awful filter you're using on the drums is in full
effect.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2005-10-25 11:19 [#01760770]
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Lets see if I get kicked out of school for printing the
ozone manual ...


 


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