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[movie] the idiots
 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-03-09 05:25 [#01526610]
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anyone else watch this "previously banned" film on ch4 the
other night? Its a Lars van Tier film .. the guy who made
"breaking the waves" and "dancer in the dark".

Its about a group of social dropouts who pretend to be
mentally handicapped in public places. Yeah i
know...whacky!

Anyway, it seemed real eurotrashy for the most part and i
couldn't wait for the thing to be finished but it was oddily
compelling all the same.. the acting was really good and
just the tenseness of some of the scenes was great. The sex
scene it was banned for ... was about 5 seconds of actual
penetration (by porn standins).. was no big thang really.

...in the end though, it was just plain odd and confusing.



 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-09 05:27 [#01526614]
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I thought it was crap the first time I saw it. Didn't think
much when I started trying to watch it again.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-03-09 05:38 [#01526621]
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it struck me as being quite a pretentious film. there was a
more interesting documentry on bbc2 that night about race
issues


 

offline Sire from the depths (Finland) on 2005-03-09 05:41 [#01526624]
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This is the film that made me a fan of Trier's work - seen
it 3 times. The story is quite good IMO.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-09 05:44 [#01526625]
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It's alright, but I couldn't really empathise with any of
the characters. The girl who joins and continues her
spasticity in front of her family is quite a good character
and when they leave the bloke "in character" with the bike
gang it's quite funny.

Most of the characters got on my nerves though, sort of
people who'd wind me up in real life. I saw a documentary on
it where they had real disabled people commenting on it and
also a day when the actors met some real disabled people,
(whilst in character!) as a form of research. That was quite
interesting...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-03-09 06:45 [#01526677]
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trier is pretty pretentious director i think..what's the
point of being a film director if you make a film that looks
like anyone with a video camera could do it..this dogma 12
thing is just silly..i saw the idiots couple of times, i
guess it was alright since i bothered to watch it twice, but
nothing too special as some people seem to think of it..


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-09 06:49 [#01526678]
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I think the point is that making it look like a film does
not a film make, or in other words: anyone can hold a camera
and film, but that does not make them a film director.


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2005-03-09 06:50 [#01526679]
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i've never seen that one, allthough i heard about it. A lot
pf poeple think that it's hilarious. I might rent it one of
these days... von trier gives me a headache most of the
time. The shaky camera hurts... But i like his stories and
shit most of the time.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-09 06:50 [#01526680]
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never saw this film, btw. only "breaking the waves", "dancer
in the dark" and "the kingdom". and a few other assorted
Dogma films.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-03-09 06:59 [#01526689]
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its definitely not hilarious for a start....imagine mtv's
"jackass" meets an unfunny danish verion of "the office" but
starring really good actors. You can't?.. well, thats "the
idiots" for you.

"Breaking the waves" is something extraordinary though.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-03-09 06:59 [#01526690]
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he's gone a bit to far with it imo opinion
ofcourse..personally i just prefer visually attractive
films..even dogma 12 films can look more proffesional than
that..i just don't see the point of it really..not really
bothered by it either, i liked quite a few films..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-03-09 07:00 [#01526693]
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one opinion too many..


 


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