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what's the story with ipods these days, the original ones, they only seem to be selling 20gb versions, and no 40gb ones? is this some sort of ploy to force people to pay more for fucking colour screens and suchlike when it's completely unneccessary in an effing emmpeethree player? |
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Yes, yes it is. |
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they stopped selling the 40GB normal iPod? What a load of nonces |
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po-poo-poo-pood-poodle |
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you can get one on ebay but I do agree its pretty stupid that they stopped making that one. |
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As time goes on the once great Apple continue to slide further down the slippery slope of companies that take the piss out of consumers, my brother is on his third I-pod in about 9 months and I've got too many horror stories to mention about their gear, the sad fact is that they have me by the balls but I'll never buy a brand new Apple product ever again. |
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i dont have an ipod, i have a sony walkman that plays cassettes and im happy with it |
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"As time goes on the once great Apple continue to slide further down the slippery slope of companies that take the piss out of consumers," i must be lucky then because i've owned a few different ipods over the years and not had one problem. I've got the 6GB ipod mini at the moment and its definately the best mp3 player i've ever owned! |
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Free iPod Shuffle - stores upto 240 songs !! [url=http://www.lynxtrack.com/afclick.php?o=404&b=p41httbf& p=1484&l=1] Songs link...[/url] |
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agreed. it's fucking dissapointing to see every single fucking company that once really cared about their customers fail to give a shit and turn into greedy corporate fucks intent on ripping the crap out of their customers once they're large enough to get away with it. when you're small, ensuring your customers are happy is paramount. once you've reached some marketing nirvana with your product(s) where people blindly buy them anyway (ie: ipod), it'd be a fucking miracle to not see said company turning into total unreasonable dickheads. i guess it's what happens when you go public; companies stop giving a shit about customers and start giving a shit about making their shareholders wallets fatter, as they're certainly pressured to do that. it'd be nice if there could be a system implemented where focus could exist outside of profit, but it's too fucking late now; laws are fucking /made/ for these types of companies, as they're virtually run by them. the internet is a great place for free speech and potential consumer awareness, but hell, even that's being clamped down on now. |
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when was apple altruistic? |
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i rant way too much. that was more of a general rant rather than directed at apple; i've always found my powerbooks reliable, and a logic board problem with my girlfriend's ibook was replaced without too many dramas under warranty. i've seen many signs in the past few years that they're quickly starting to spiral down the greedy-corporate hole, though. the way they market the ipod is pure genius, but they're sure as hell abusing that. |
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heh yeah they've always been rather selfish like that. some would argue that's part of the reason why they almost went fucking broke at one stage. |
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I mean, don't get me wrong, I lust over apple's stuff just like most other nerds, but as far as I can tell they're acting like they always have... like a company, who's main goal is making money. They've just got a genius counter-culture marketting scheme. |
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I fail to see what is so counter-culture about their marketing. |
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Well, they certainly like to play themselves as youthful outsiders. An alternative to the usual. Apple seems to target "free thinkers" more than the business crowd. I'm not sure exactly how to clarify.. I guess it depends on your definition of "counter-culture".. I suppose I align "counter-culture" with youth and rebeliousness... both very strong qualities in apples advertising. |
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i'd agree with that, but the associations they've created with their products is genius in many ways; it also appeals /to/ the non 'alternative' crowd simultaneously. i'd love to see the thinking that goes into their marketing, or whether it's just pure fluke. |
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Well some of you peopel must be very unlucky. I've worked in the same design studio for nearly 10 years and every Mac we've had (must be about 12) has been great, maybe 1 hard-disk failure and thats it. I've got 6 or 7 friens with iPods and no problems. As for getting rid of the 40gb, I think the are slowly phazing out the b/w iPod in favour of the iPod Photo which will just become the iPod. So I don't think anybody is getting ripped off, with every upgrade you get more for your money. The iPod photos have better battery life too, so I don't see what the problem is. |
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yeah, but I think there's so much advertising that tries to do that, it's still just trying to be counter-culture |
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I agree. A lot of companies try that. I just think Apple is really good at it. |
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You can still get an Iriver H340 if you look around...... I have one, and it's pretty bloody fantastic. Unlike the Ipod photo, you can actually watch films on it too (if you upgrade the firmware). |
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It's not just a problem with the durability of their products (I've had my G3 for about 6 years with no serious problems)although I know that this does exist with I-pods. The fact is that Apple do things that practically redefine the term "taking the piss", here are a few to be getting on with 1.No I-tunes compatibility for any OS lower than X, why not? it's just an MP3 player for chrissakes, I don't want to have to get a new computer just so I can run an I-pod, my G3 should be perfectly capable of doing this but it won't run OSX so I'm screwed in that department. 2.What's wrong with having a simple compartment that allows you to take out and replace your I-pod battery with ease, why make it so bloody difficult and then have your warranty voided for the privelage? 3.Why did Apple buy up Soundjam (the forunner to I-tunes) and then block any access users of this software used to have to the CDDB? giving them no choice but to go over to Iitunes if they want to carry on using that service. 4.Why does it cost more to have their monitors repaired than it does to buy a brand new one? 5.When my replacable CDR drive malfunctioned why was Apple's soloution to this problem "buy a new computer"? obviously this is totally ridiculous when the drive can be so easily replaced. these are just a few things that I have experienced in recent times, I'm sure other people have more stories. |
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iTunes used to be available for OS 9… but then again, how long should they be having to reverse engineer everything? OS 9 is dead, they can't support it forever. |
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It was never availble for I-pod use on OS9, OS9 is not dead, I still use it for one, and if by dead you mean "not supported" then who's to blame for that? The fact is that it would be easy for Apple to make an I-pod compatible OS9 version of I-tunes, the reason one doesn't exist is because it would mean less people buying into OSX (something that I can't do because my whole studio is based around OS9) Hell, if Apple were a decent company they'd make I-tunes available for ALL their OS that could run on any USB compatible computer. |
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Many companies have cottoned on to the fact that there are a lot of morons out there who think they have a Wild Side to their banality and so they tr4de on that. "Me, a conformist business-like just because I works in an office and wears a whistle? Not likely mate, I'm a rebel with a biro!" |
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cigarette companies started doing this in the late nineties. made me laugh out vomiting when (I think it was) Chesterfield would make these posters leaving an open space for you the cancer-ridden customer to drop your creative wad and send it to them, suggesting with a few sleazy slogans that smoking their crap has a lot to do with being An Independant Thinker. the cigarette-smoker as the epitome of creativity and individuality. |
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yeah, well, i'll stick with a portable cd player thanks. : ) |
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wise words, especially when you consider that most portable disc players play mp3 nowadays and are a damn site cheaper and less high maintenance than an I-pod anyway. |
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oh, mine doesn't play mp3s... but even so, it's ok. |
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"Unlike the Ipod photo, you can actually watch films on it too (if you upgrade the firmware)." another useless feature added by ipod competitors. Its an mp3 player for crying out loud! Who would want to watch a film on a tiny screen?? |
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"my G3 should be perfectly capable of doing this but it won't run OSX so I'm screwed in that department." wow you must have a real apple dinosaur, most G3's should be capable of running OSX, anyone who can't run OSX must be in an extreme minority. |
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yeah like that useful camera function on coming iPods. |
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Apple II? |
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haha suckers. |
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I have a 40GB iPod. I have lots of music on it. I have all my contacts on it. I have all my calendars on it. I also have all sorts of other files on it. It is very light. It is genius. It is mine. And I love it. |
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I very much doubt that. |
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yeah at the end of the day isn't that all that matters, all this moaning usually comes from people who don't have an ipod. |
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To each their own… |
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I have a blue and white smurf tower, 350mhz with about 500mb ram, it may well be able to run osx (but efficiantly?), I'm just worried about classic mode not being able to run my essential applications (Mesa, Cubase 5.1, Fs1r editing app, Nord Modular patching app) because without these I can make no music. |
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I have a 40 gig one but I bought it in November. Spoons and lima beans |
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Yes, aside from music makers who use macs, a lot of their customers are "lifestyle" bandwagon saps who seem to think buying a PC that can only run about 10% of the programs, costs twice as much and looks like some 70s modern art in transparent acrylic, somehow defines them as unique, creative and individual. (It really defines them as having more money than sense and as being a marketing man's wet dream.) That said, good for sound, eh? ;-) |
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i buy an ipod i loose it a week latar huzzah |
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that is seriously unfortunate. your warranty doesnt cover theft does it? |
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my g3 (i think) gave up after 3 years, it failed to boot from the harddisk |
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did you try fixing it or getting it fixed? |
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no i got the info taken off for 120 euros i think ill put it on ebay now for 1 euro, but you can buy them now for like 60 or so |
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nope.. i lost it seeing cylob/ovuca/lackluster.. great gig, shit end to the night.. what's worse is that they're not making the 40gb ipods anymore (oh right, that was the original purpose of this thread..) But! just got a call from my mom, she'd been onto the insurance company and they'll refund the full amount, plus she's rang around shops and there are a few shops that still have 1 or 2 of them.. so hopefully they aren't damaged 2nd hand ipods and i'll have an ipod again! hooray for great moms! :D |
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i read in this interview with an apple executive that he thought a dif between apple and pc was that apple-users still have their first mac somewhere (cause they love it so much or something), but i think that is because they paid so goddamn much for it |
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i tried to leave mine at the shop but they adviced ebay or something, i think ill leave the thing at their doorstep at night though thought they're just resellers |
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