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hungrig
from Sweden on 2002-02-11 18:27 [#00085435]
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real piano tracks? or is it just samples from other classical tracks? info!!! ??
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nacmat
on 2002-02-11 18:31 [#00085437]
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i dunno but i ´d bet they are real...
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hungrig
from Sweden on 2002-02-11 18:34 [#00085439]
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Richard plays the piano?? :)
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nacmat
on 2002-02-11 18:36 [#00085444]
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sure... i mean why not?
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-02-11 19:05 [#00085456]
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Of course they're real.
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nacmat
on 2002-02-11 19:13 [#00085463]
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that i thought... any way the question is::: do you like them??? i do i really do i love drukqs many will not like this
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morpheme
from Ninly, New York on 2002-02-11 19:52 [#00085485]
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I wonder if, on some of the tracks, the piano is prepared, or digitally altered, or what? Someone told me, before I heard the album, that there's some great prepared piano, but I don't know where his info came from.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-02-11 20:02 [#00085491]
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I was told that some of them were prepared. I like them a great deal. I especially enjoy the tracks with the harmonium (the eastern string sounding instrument). Some people say they are nothing but filler but I think they add to the album and make for good breaks between the drill 'n bass tracks.
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hungrig
from Sweden on 2002-02-11 20:58 [#00085533]
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the variations on the drukqs album is the one thing that makes it totaly brilliant! Confusing at first but after a while it all makes sense. :)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 21:00 [#00085536]
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I kinda consider drukqs to be 4 diff EPs...
With one of em being just the piano tracks...
Seems to work better for me...(plus it's fun making your own drukqs...)...
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-02-11 21:05 [#00085537]
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He said in a swedish radio interview that he had a custom made piano that could be programed.He didn't design it,someone made it for him.
That was right before Windowlicker came out.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 21:20 [#00085557]
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Didn't he say he got a couple of those Yamaho MIDI grands?... and fucked around...sorry I mean, prepared, one of em....
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Henry
from Oxelösund (Sweden) on 2002-02-11 21:24 [#00085562]
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yeah, Calle Dernulf said so, he controlled his piano via midi
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-11 21:25 [#00085563]
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with the real piano-tracks you can hear richard's no viruoso: with avril 14th, which sounds pretty tough to play, i think you hear a metronome, but that's just a cool effect. kesson dalef on the other hand would have been better with more technique, the left hand is way to simple, the right should have been a bit more complicated to make the melody even more beautiful, that's my opinion at least
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-02-11 21:32 [#00085566]
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Jag och Raimons såg Calle Dernulf i en skivafär för några veckor sedan, han provlyssnade bland annat på Squarepushers "Untitled" promo.
Intresant fakta va!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-11 22:09 [#00085608]
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richard knows how to play the piano......and i'm sure that is him playing and not some sample.
imho....drukqs is a masterpiece.....and the piano pieces are some of my favorite.
i appreciate artists who are classically trained pianists ...trent reznors IS...and his work on his new CD is amazing.....
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-11 22:35 [#00085630]
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well on drukqs it is nice for the variety, but if you listen to classical music, not just rachmaninov but also, relativly more simple, des regendruppel from chopin, for instance, it's hard not to feel disappointed in richard's technique, by which i mean the simpleness of what he plays (again: not on avril 14th). i feel that in this case it wouldn't have been a shame to have handed the composition of some of these songs over to some really classical trained piano-player. which, on another note, he could have done with the mastering or mixing of drukqs too, because when listening drukqs i can't help hearing, or rather feeling, richard's aversion to this kind of work; with the richard d james album, for instance, i feel that he put a lot more love into into those details.
(i hope i made a point come across here)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-11 22:51 [#00085639]
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i believe sir, you made your point! (=
i agree richard is not the most amazing pianist around, but i appreciate his less than perfect work on drukqs
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-11 23:58 [#00085729]
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why, thank you, i do like it too, what other aphex albums do you have btw?, and you may call me sir if you like that.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 00:00 [#00085730]
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trent reznor is a racist
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-12 00:03 [#00085733]
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thats the second time ive seen that comment on this MB...
what makes him a racist?
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-12 00:03 [#00085734]
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now that's interesting, and why's that, jarworkski?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 00:03 [#00085735]
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I've explained this so many times I can't be arsed any more
Sorry, it's a long story... :o/
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-12 00:04 [#00085736]
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uh, yeah!
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-12 00:07 [#00085742]
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well, if you'r not too tired too make that accusation again...
anyway, maybe you can give us the keyword to find the topic, i'll try trent reznor racist
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 00:08 [#00085744]
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sepultura is one...
somebody else said he was a woman beater as well, but I dunno that one
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OK
on 2002-02-12 05:53 [#00086040]
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I:On the cover of „Drukqs“ there’s a photo of the inside of a piano. And on the album you’ve includ-ed quite a few piano pieces.
RDJ: I’ve loved pianos since I was little. The one I used to have as a child got woodworm and my mum had to sell it because the worms were eating all the
wood in the house and I was really upset. A year and a half ago I bought a new piano, it’s a midi-controlled one from Yamaha. They usually have them in hotels where the keys all plat themselves. People with too much money own them (laughs). That bloke from Take That, Gary Balow has got
one. He’s got a white one though and I wouldn’t get a white one. I was going to have four of them all linked together for live shows.
------- I:This is the first time that you’ve recorded the piano for a record, isn’t it?
RDJ: No, I haven’t really done piano tracks before. I thought that I could keep my piano for a few more years and then release stuff and it’s going to be loads more accomplished. But I like to put things out early and it’s my first effort.
--------- I:Some of the tracks sound very simple on others it seems as if you have prepared the piano.
RDJ: Yeah. A lot of the tracks are modified. I’ve pre-pared the strings. I use screws and nails and bits of rubber, I’ve made lots of little things so that you can change the harmonics of the strings. When I bought this piano, because it was really expansive, I thought I am going going to break it straight away if I’d started to take it apart. So for one year
I just did very normal piano tracks and then after one year I started to take it apart. I’ve also done some really complicated ones, sort of electronic ver-sions, which are really programmed. But I didn’t put any of these on the album because I wanted to put out the really simple ones first. My favourite piano tracks are really simple ones. I don’t like it when they are flamboyant. Satie for example is my favourite piano composer. His tracks are deceptive-ly
simple, he’s not wasting any not
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OK
on 2002-02-12 05:54 [#00086041]
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His tracks are deceptive-ly simple, he’s not wasting any notes anywhere.
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OK
on 2002-02-12 05:56 [#00086042]
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when i put "I" before the questions it's mean to be I for interviewer not "I" as in me like "I am going to get icecream"
i post this so you know i didn't make that up
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morpheme
from Ninly, New York on 2002-02-12 06:01 [#00086044]
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Thanks, OK, good resourcing! Concise! oll korrect.
¡!
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OK
on 2002-02-12 07:18 [#00086076]
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it's a pleasure
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-02-12 07:49 [#00086094]
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The actual sheet music and midi's for two of the piano track (avril 14th, and Kesson Daslef) are available on this site. Just do a search for "midi" from the main page, I think that'll get yo there...
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-02-12 08:59 [#00086131]
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för övrigt så tycker jag att plattan han lyssnade på är jävligt bra !
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andreas
from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-12 10:31 [#00086185]
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i do not believe that rdj manually played a prepared piano or what ever. i think that he made a brilliant job in sampling and rearanging lots of different pianosounds. for me, the piano-pieces show, that rdj is a great composer and producer. i don't think he's a brilliant pianist...
.a
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-12 13:34 [#00086264]
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agreed. i still wonder what makes avril 14th sound like it does though, originally i thougt that was a midi controlled piano because it's played so in time and all the notes are seemingly at the same volume, but on second listening (or rather 200th) it's just maybe somebody playing with a metronome
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OK
on 2002-02-12 17:09 [#00086453]
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sampling and rearanging lots of different piano sounds?
you must be kidding?
it's more likely that he: a) played the piano himself b) programmed the piano via MIDI
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-12 17:19 [#00086464]
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Anyone here like Erik Satie (French composer the drukqs piano pieces are meant to sound like)?
I particularly like "Danses Gothique" and the Sarabandes.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-12 17:27 [#00086469]
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YAY! another bloody thread I can't post on.
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morpheme
from Ninly, New York on 2002-02-12 20:17 [#00086611]
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Satie's great, yo! I wish I had more recordings, though.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-02-12 20:25 [#00086615]
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Top be honest, I don't like any of them very much, and I think drukqs would have been a better album without them!
...There! I said it.
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 21:06 [#00086688]
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Personnally, i prefer the more abstract piano pieces. While i still love avril 14th and kesson daslef, i like the seeming randomness of them. When you listen to them after a while the move past the randomness, and kind of make sense, and then you can enjoy the suttle beauty of them.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-12 22:01 [#00086735]
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OK......that is a GREAT article....thanks for the info =)
Satie is marvelous.....i'm listening to 'after the rain' right now =)
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