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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 19:45 [#01522021]
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this is some spooky stuff..apperantly they used to castrate young boys (usually at age 10) so they kept their high voices because women were forbidden to perform at that time.. the last one to be castrated was alessandro morescchi - he had to be castrated before 1870, because that was the year they outlawed it. there's this album of him singing that was recorded in 190x, and the most disturbing part is when you try to imagine +40 years old man singing with a voice of a boy...
fully song
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-04 19:48 [#01522024]
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another one
"Back in the 17th Century, when women were barred from appearing on stage or singing in churches, the roles of sopranos were routinely filled by castrati; men who had been castrated during childhood so the pure high tones of their unbroken boyhood voices could be maintained indefinitely. This practice, banned in 1870, was too late for Alessandro Moreschi, captured here in 1902 on a wax cylinder recording of what may be the only known recorded performance of a Castrato." -- wfmu.org / wfmu's on the download
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 19:48 [#01522025]
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oh, and the title of the album is The Last Castrato!? like it was some kind of a freak or something..really disturbing..
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-04 19:51 [#01522027]
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it is weird and creepy indeed... and from the sound of it, i'd say he's not actually a very good singer. is it just me or is he a bit off-pitch and wobbly?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 19:52 [#01522028]
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jesus..and now imagine this guy singing that.. no matter how nice it sounds this is just too weird..
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-04 19:53 [#01522029]
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Er... excellent!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 19:53 [#01522030]
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personally i think it's supposed to be that way :-) i like the singing actually, but it's too weird..
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-04 19:55 [#01522031]
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1902... fuck, that's a few years ago now isn't it??
I love ancient recordings like these, any more? Castrati or otherwise?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-04 19:55 [#01522032]
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oh, ok. i'm certainly not very familiar with this style of music. that's interesting.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-04 19:56 [#01522033]
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That one's just funny!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 20:02 [#01522034]
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i have an early original blues on cd..from around 1930 or so, but i lend it to a friend so i can rip that for you when i get it back..
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-04 20:09 [#01522036]
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hahaha
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-04 20:28 [#01522041]
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That would do nicely :)
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-03-04 20:32 [#01522042]
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theyu had cd's back then?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 20:34 [#01522043]
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apperantly..it surprised me aswell.
xammax, i'll think of you..it usually takes her quite a while to return stuff so it might take a while..i'll let you know when i get it tho!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-03-04 20:36 [#01522045]
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this is horrible to think that 'they' could do that to someone. my old choir teacher was an Alto and only like 35 years old, so i wonder if it still goes on.....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 20:42 [#01522047]
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well, the still circumcise women in some african countries which is sort of the same thing..
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-03-04 20:47 [#01522050]
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female circumcision is like mutilation though? what do tyhey actually do to them? i've never known, but i'm sure its not pleasant.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-03-04 20:54 [#01522056]
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ooh i just read up on it. not nice.not nice at all.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 20:56 [#01522057]
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yeah, horrible..
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-04 21:01 [#01522062]
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best vote ever: On a hot tin roof. Curled up next to me snoring. Smothered in chocolate sauce. Wearing polka-dotted leotards and high-heels in the grocery store.
Covered in condoms dancing the tango at a nursing home. Nursing a ring of fire with ointment. With a puzzled look and a lit firecracker in his drawers. In the kitchen, naked and barefoot. Other. Dressed like Ricardo Montalban serinading with a tuba.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-03-04 21:02 [#01522065]
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-04 21:03 [#01522067]
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haha. love it
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-03-04 21:04 [#01522069]
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look at that petruding chin
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-03-04 21:09 [#01522075]
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Is this what he imagines himself as?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-03-04 21:10 [#01522076]
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shit
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-04 21:10 [#01522077]
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who? Ricardo Montalban?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 21:28 [#01522080]
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people are one messed up creatures.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-04 21:44 [#01522088]
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 21:46 [#01522090]
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hahaha :D
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 21:46 [#01522091]
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i wonder..
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-03-04 21:48 [#01522092]
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i have a friend with a high voice like that and he has the biggest nuts you'll never see. his name is Kalama Jon and he is a legend in this town!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-03-04 21:48 [#01522094]
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oh but, yeah, that is some spooky singing there so thanks i guess!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-04 21:49 [#01522095]
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better keep him out of vatican..
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-04 21:51 [#01522097]
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-04 22:05 [#01522111]
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nah, he can sing low aswell
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-03-04 22:21 [#01522118]
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i studied castrato for a level used to be really big!
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mimi
on 2005-03-05 01:11 [#01522142]
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I have been looking for a recording of this guy forever! Thanks! We listened to one in a music history class I took in highschool, and ever since, I have been wanting to hear it again. Eerie.
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mimi
on 2005-03-05 01:23 [#01522144]
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I found what I heard in highschool. Here is an mp3 of him doing Ave Maria:
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uzim
on 2005-03-05 02:35 [#01522174]
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well, yeah, i thought this was well-known... : |
at least they're not doing it anymore. and at least they had "something" to replace their testicles, somehow.
whereas female circumcision is still practiced in many countries.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-05 07:34 [#01522284]
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nice, we'll have a complete album soon :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-03-05 07:40 [#01522285]
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I read recently about a surgeon who does restorative surgery on women who've had this done - the clitoris is much longer internally than you'd imagine and he can cut a few ligaments so more of it will be exposed.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-05 18:55 [#01522845]
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I have a complete album en route. Only an hour more in slsk.
I think it sounds really neat, not as strange as some seem to be thinking. I cant really judge cultures against this one, as they are different and have different reasons for doing things and different psychologies, and 19 century europe is no different. Its fortunate that they managed to retain a recording of this bizarre means of mutilation.
Remix project underway...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-05 18:56 [#01522848]
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Jesus... I just got off of work. Just jumble around those words a bit to make them make sence.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-05 19:04 [#01522858]
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haha, good to hear that..i might see if i can find the whole thing..if i can put aside my thoughts i could actually like it.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-05 19:09 [#01522864]
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Slsk name; Taxis
I will be sharing it in my classical folder in an hour or so.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-05 19:13 [#01522874]
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cool, thanks a lot! i added you to my list so feel free to get anything aswell ofcourse!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-05 19:17 [#01522885]
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is your name tolstoyed?
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