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offline x0hx from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-03-02 02:53 [#01518312]
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~$300, first run of 100 units
Exact same electronic guts
only adds MIDI + USB
target=blank>Elektro Luv <3


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-02 03:23 [#01518347]
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Our Java software will control the x0xb0x, or let
you save/edit stored patterns and tracks in the onboard
memory."

Java? Yuck!

Still nice idea. I'd rather they pre-fabcricated it though,

I'm a bit on an electrical numpty and don't fancy knackering

£200 worth of components/no guarantee it'll work at the end

of it.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-02 03:34 [#01518353]
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I just blind tested myself with the samples and got it 90%+
right which was which (I did two passes through the list and
only go one wrong- I thought one of the real ones
wasn't a real 303 as it sounded a bit too
clean/digital).

Audiorealism Bassline VST is still the best emulation IMO.
Still, this is probably the best hardware emulation I've
heard...


 

offline x0hx from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-03-02 04:35 [#01518414]
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Emulator?
Interesting... I mean, they use the same parts
So really, it's an "upgrade", no?
I'd rather have the hardware
Something about mounds of electronic synthii lying round the
pad that gets a user high
nahmean, g?


 

offline x0hx from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-03-02 04:36 [#01518415]
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Ewwww and the "Only for XP/2000/OS X" thing is a major
turnoff


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-02 04:45 [#01518425]
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"Something about mounds of electronic synthii lying round
the
pad that gets a user high
nahmean, g?"

Yeah, there's a certain class in having to move a spare
mixer in order to get to your wardrobe :D

Dunno if it'd affect the 303, but I've heard the reason for
chips/components not sounding like "classic" ones is due to
them having not been "burnt in" from prolonged use. Original
303s are 20ish years old, so I imagine the components would
have "aged", so new ones might be slightly different? As I
say, I'm no electronics guru, but I'd read that explanation
before and it seems to make sense. Comments, Dave_G?


 

offline x0hx from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-03-02 04:49 [#01518432]
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"Certain class..."
OMG LMFAO
Oh I needed that!!
Great picture in my head, btw
Add tonnes of beercans, and we've got it made

Yeah the burn-in factor def. comes into play
What was that other 303 mod... the hammerhead...?



 

offline x0hx from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-03-02 04:50 [#01518434]
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Oh, what's wrong w/ Java??
Too slow?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-02 05:01 [#01518449]
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It's, "A solution to a problem that never existed." ;-)

Seriously though, it's v. slow, buggy, gash for graphics.
It's seldom really needed/the best solution, but people use
it because:

a) It's cheaper to write things like mobile phone O/S in
java, rather than do it properly and write sections of it in
machine code, etc.

b) It cuts dev. costs for cross platform programs. Oracle
use java for their installers, etc. just to save paying to
have seperate installers written for windows/linux. This is
inspite of the fact it refreshes about as fast as a
image-heavy website, accessed over dialup, even on a quad
processor server :)

* I also hate it because I had to write programs in it using
posiden (a java compiler, written in java) - can you imagine
how slow/buggy that was?!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-02 06:41 [#01518540]
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this looks cool!


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 02:02 [#01525381]
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Hmm, comments will follow as soon as I digest it. Shame no
circuit diagrams to follow. Just use ReBirth ;)


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 04:10 [#01525418]
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Hmmm, looks like it almost certainly doesn't use the same
components. Let's not get started on batches. The original
batches are decades old.
The circuitry will sound different, because tolerances and
slight differences will add up, but overall the differences
should be minimal.

Ironically, its the mistakes of the 303 that are the hardest
parts to emulate/replicate. Non linearities are what make it
an interesting little beast.
Think for example if the 303 was a great little genrator of
square and sawtooths, they could be made accurately again
and again forever.

But if you've ever looked at the 'square' and saw outputs on
a scope or cooledit or something, they are nothing like the
'textbook' waveforms.

Anyway.... I can't get access to sounds at the moment but I
image its a 303 esque sound. Look at it this way, do you
want to make 303 squelch acid clone mix no. 1000340342 or
something a bit more original? No one wants to hear the same
thing again and again do they? If they did, everyone would
have bought a hammond and shunned synths to this day.


 


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