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Phobiazero from Sweden on 2001-02-28 13:51 [#00000610] | |||||||||
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Check out the lastest addition to the LEARN-section, an article covering Lucid Dreaming written by Rob Young...tell me your thoughts about this...do you believe in it? |
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Snookie on 2001-03-02 09:45 [#00000675] | |||||||||
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That's a long article and I can't be bothered in reading it all.. But I thought anyone could have Lucid Dreams? I have.. Not very often. I guess you have to practise to extend the length too. It is my strong beleif that you have to get a LOT of sleep for it to work. Like sleep, wake up and go back to sleep. Usually starting in the afternoon or something. Although I've never pupposely tried to do it, that's the usual setting.. I hope I don't sount too silly.. |
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Quoth from Lincoln on 2001-03-03 05:16 [#00000687] | |||||||||
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I've experienced some lucid dreams before. The kind where taste, smell, sight, hurt, and even touch have played parts in the dreams. It was quite odd for me to experience such akward dreams. One tip, get drugged up on caffeine and stay up as long as possible, persuading yourself to not fall asleep, until you need it. Then sleep as long as possible, all lights out, no natural light, no light at all. Music helps, suggestion on that, SAWII. Personal favorite, is Passengers Soundtrack by Eno and U2. |
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and twenty phase from youesseh on 2001-03-03 11:26 [#00000693] | |||||||||
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I never even heard of lucid dreaming until reading that article, which was very interesting. I'd really like to be able to try that. caffeine you say?... |
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and twenty phase from youesseh on 2001-03-03 11:27 [#00000694] | |||||||||
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I never even heard of lucid dreaming until reading that article, which was very interesting. I'd really like to be able to try that. caffeine you say?... |
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Scary Bear on 2001-03-03 13:38 [#00000697] | |||||||||
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Apparently you don't really have to torture yourself to the xtent of staying up all night listening to music and drinking coffee. I wrote to a phsychiatrist because I wanted to get inspired by dreams the same way Richard is, in order to make music and feel the experience etc. But you can train yourself into becoming completely concious of your dreams and manipulating them and oover the course of a couple of mnths learn to do it naturally without having to try and fuck yourself over with purposeful insomnia. Saying that I haven't managed it yet! But I haven't even tried propperly just the occasional attempt. A mate of mine also says that it is real tiring too. |
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and twenty phase from amirika on 2001-03-04 00:30 [#00000713] | |||||||||
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not to sound prying, but what are some of those training practices? I wake up recalling multiple dreams EVERY morning... anyone else ? (hope I'm not pursuing a topic not welcome, but this is quite an interest of mine) |
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hedtwin from Manchester, England. on 2001-03-04 19:54 [#00000724] | |||||||||
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i would like to learn how to lucid dream as well!! If you know what these excersizes are, tell me!!! |
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snufkin/aphexmel/bfmlateshow/mela from auckland new zealand on 2001-03-10 09:15 [#00000859] | |||||||||
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i read that lucid dreams article, and was wondering, isn't that just the same as daydreaming??? Being concious of what you're dreaming????? And yeah.. what are the training exercises you go thru to 'lucid dream'?????? |
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Tekn010G from australia on 2001-03-10 23:19 [#00000875] | |||||||||
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ok,.... Lucid dreaming DOES exist, and here is a brief tutorial on how to do it,.. When you first wake up,.. think of nothing but what you were just dreaming about,..(If you think about anything else as soon as you wake up, then you will probably forget your dreams, because everyone has about 5 dreams a night,... it's juast a case of whether you can remember them,.. you may have had a lucid dream before,.. but forgot about it after you woke up) after a while of doing this you will get to the point where you will remember up to 2-4 dreams a night, every dream that you remember, write down into a notebook or "dream journal" see if you can identify anything that seems to pop up in your dreams all the time (known as a dream sign,.. this could be a noise that always happens in your dreams, or a car that always happens to be there,.. or maybe even a feeling) and then,.. the last step is to do a "reality check" about 10 times a day,.. this is where you suddenly stop and observe your surroundings to see if you are dreaming (when you are dreaming ANYTHING can seem normal,.. so you have to be willing to do this for almost no reason throughout the day) the best thing to do is to look at a digital watch,.. if you are dreaming then the numbers will constantly change (the reason for this is that: when you look at a digital watch,.. you expect the numbers to appear in front of your face,.. you expect to "find out" what the time is, but because you don't know,.. only the glow of the LED will show up,.. It's a pschological thing,.. just ignore me) and finally,.. when you do realise that you arew dreaming do not panic,.. as it will probably wake you up,.. and also keep in mind that sometimes you can loose ucidity in a dream,...... If you want to know more, try typing "lucid dreaming" in a search engine :) |
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and twenty phase from americhe on 2001-03-11 02:19 [#00000884] | |||||||||
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Thanks for the info Tek! Have you experienced this? I'm hoping to eventually...hehe |
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Ramalpha84 from Noo Zee Lund on 2001-03-11 02:23 [#00000885] | |||||||||
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I have semi-lucid dreams sometimes, I can remember about having only about 10 every year. Well, not very often. I've never experienced taste or smell, but I have controlled dreams and have quite oten heard things like music, in a dream I posted somewhere here I had the RDJ album, but when I listened to it, it was Radiohead's Kid A, probably for similar reason to the watch thing (I dont have RDJ album). |
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Tekn010G from australia on 2001-03-12 00:15 [#00000912] | |||||||||
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I have experienced many lucid dreams before,.. although in the first few lucid dreams that I had I woke up after panicking too much,.. (It realy blows your mind when you realise that you are dreaming,... It seems just as real as real life sometimes, and the fact that you know that you're dreaming can really scare you) |
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Tekn010G from australia on 2001-03-12 00:17 [#00000913] | |||||||||
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It'l probably take a month to reach lucidity depending on how dedicated you are :) |
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Mr. Bighead from Coolidge,AZ on 2001-03-12 05:25 [#00000922] | |||||||||
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I've had tons of lucid dreams and out of body experiences. They are quite awesome. the first one scared me because I thought I had died and either gone to heaven or hell or limbo or where ever. I panicked and awoke. But after a lot of trial and error it becomes easy to just sleep and move around in your dreams and control actions. Eventually you can even invent characters or props for your dreams. It's really fun. I've had conversations with famous people many times. Mick Jagger said that being married it "bloody annoying", Iggy Pop and I even made a barber shop track together once. Just the other night I smoked a joint with Aphex twin and he told me he was more like Salieri than Mozart. Some times I make people say or do things or I can only control myself. It's variable and it's the most interesting thing to experiment with. Give it a try and don't give up. |
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snufkin from auckland new zealand on 2001-03-12 05:47 [#00000923] | |||||||||
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does it make you tired?? (cos you're concious in your sleep... so you're kinda not really sleeping.....) |
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Mr. Bighead from Coolidge, AZ on 2001-03-12 15:41 [#00000949] | |||||||||
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I usually sleep a few more hours after I do it. A night of lucid dreaming will require about three more hours of sleep. That's what sucks. It's worth it though. |
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Scary Bear on 2001-03-12 17:14 [#00000952] | |||||||||
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teck: I just printed out your guide cheers |
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Scary Bear on 2001-03-12 17:22 [#00000953] | |||||||||
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tek: sorry I spelt your name wrong! One more thing about lucid dreaming. There is a way to prevent the loss of lucidity when if you panic. You can try "spinning" in your dream, that is turning round and round and round. This is just a phsycological thing, but I wrote to an expert on the subject of lucid dreaming and meditation and he said that it works. I haven't tried it myself. Thought it might help. :) |
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Tekn010G from australia on 2001-03-13 01:23 [#00000979] | |||||||||
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There are heaps of techniques to learn about lucid dreaming, but there are too many to write down, so it would be better just to look it up,.. but glad to be of halp anyways \\-// ^ --- |
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Tekn010G from australia on 2001-03-13 01:24 [#00000980] | |||||||||
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Damn forums,.. I hate it when ascii art doesn't work!!! |
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Yggdrasil from Cyberium on 2001-03-14 16:47 [#00001028] | |||||||||
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The first time I started experiencing lucid dreaming was as a result of dealing with nightmares. Whenever a dream would turn bad, I became conscious of the fact that I was dreaming and at that point was able to do something about it. Most often I chose to wake myself up and the only reliable way of doing that was to force my eyes open. This is the best way I can force myself to wake up when dreaming. I guess because I am experiencing such a strong feeling, I am closer to waking, whereas most of the time my dreams are too subtle. So I recommend that whenever something bad is happening to you, ask yourself if you are dreaming. That's how it works for me, I hear the question in my head, although it's more of a feeling - "Am I dreaming?" At that point you can take full control. The problem becomes one of remaining dreaming after you ask the question, but quite often I am able to remain sleeping at least, if not dreaming. Once, and only once, I was able to give myself a weapon and deal with my problems in my sleep. The weapon itself wasn't important, it was the fact I could give myself protection. Y. |
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Yggdrasil from Cyberium on 2001-03-14 17:01 [#00001029] | |||||||||
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Stop me if I talk too much, but this is a subject that fascinates me, and I have a little experience on it and lots of interest in it. So I will add a little more. From what I have read, people often fall asleep when they become immobile, eg. in front of the TV, and aren't aware of the fact. They believe they were awake the entire time. They didn't close their eyes, but they go into "day dreaming" mode. Recently I experienced some funky sleep deprivation, and you find there are times where you pass in and out of consciousness. You intentionally keep the mind active and stop your eyes from closing and stop that comfortable numbness overcoming your body. Then what you experience is the border between reality and imagination, and you begin to wonder whether you imagined things or experienced them. I think potentially, this is also a good way to have lucid dreams. Even if you do let yourself fall asleep occasionally and can force yourself to awaken minutes later. You could use an egg-timer or something similar to bring you out of going into deep sleep. Anything that keeps you on that border. You are not supposed to be dreaming until about phase 3 or 4 sleep which is an hour or so after falling asleep, but I believe you can screw with that. More recently I have been experiencing drifting off into sleep and my imaginings become my dreamings. I am no longer in control of my thoughts, but I am vaguely conscious of them, so I would have to call them dreams. Y |
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yabba yabba |
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yeah i saw "waking life" too. i just recognize things that only happen to me in my dreams. one thing is that when i try to run in dreams, its like running in a pool of water. i pump my legs but i don't move forward fast. another thing that commonly happens to me is that i will be only wearing a large t-shirt but no pants. if either of these things happen now, i recognize that i am dreaming and can then take control. |
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okay. what happened to the learnsection? I want to learn. I want to read, this. peace! Today is valborgsmässoafton! yay! Party! |
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I lucid dream quite a lot. It is no big deal...I have been doing it for years. |
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virginpusher is the 1 know all - have done all when it comes to lucid dreaming. Talk about being THA SHIET!!!!!! |
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