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what can we do to avoid mass media control as a human being ? |
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Suicide? |
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we can't as by the time we realise we are under control it's too late. |
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Listen to godspeed you black emperor |
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j/k, although we should all listen anyway |
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'j/k' - jthat's a crap abbreviation really isnt it? |
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yeah, please leave |
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even if we realize... all the big governments probably like it this way... There is actually nothing we can do about it..... it's allready too late. |
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Rrrrrrrrraus! |
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it's all in the socialization. it's about the ideologies we get when we are growing up before we can even consider being controlled by the media. the obvious common ideology for us is, get educated, get a job, money is your god. |
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what's wrong with media control? |
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you think they should be able to say anything about anybody? |
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don't watch tv. that's it really. |
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watch Come to Daddy instead |
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control and not free speach. im not saying the media should be censored |
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not enough..... it's everywhere... spreading like a virus. it's in the newspapers, on the internet, magazines, and even music now... |
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is this about mass media or mass media? I can control lots of media with my compertueruteurtuerutuoiyeserodfjgbklsjdfgs-gsd-fgsd.fg ho hoho |
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you'll find similarities in the marxist and matrix theories. Like the marxist theory, the matrix theory talks about people being too far into the system. For example, younger people have freer minds and can accept that they are controlled easier. Compared to older people, who may be more sceptic as they have been used to this control for so long without questioning it. Both theories are about control and with the marxist theory this is the heart of it, which can come from religion to mass media. |
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Its no worse than its been in the past, IMO, and people are generally aware of it now, wheras 60/70 years ago this sort of stuff came only from ranting paranoid schizophrenics. And government has much less control over media now which is a good thing, if you think that businessmen are more trustworthy than governments. Especially with the anti-capitalist/anti-government thing becoming pretty mainstream (Michael Moore et al), I don't think its getting worse or going ignored... |
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waow... these theories seem really interesting... i'll look into it. I never heard of these. :) |
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Keanu Reeves = Vladimir Lenin |
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Maybe you're right, tell Rupert that! |
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"And government has much less control over media now" are you sure? |
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Control and Freedom. One cannot exist without the other (the matrix theory says). A certain amount of free thinking is needed. If there was no suggestion of this then we would go insane. It's a bit like free will and choice. Conform or not? Both have their consiquences. |
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Mr Murdoch? or some posh board member that I don't know? Hehe I don't have an opinion on that really, all I shall do is shamelessly misquote the late great political philosopher Thomas Yorke who said something along the lines of, 'there are organisations just as large and as powerful as any government, the difference being that they aren't decided via ballot box' or something. I believe he said this while fingering a 7 figure cheque he'd been sent by EMI. Mastah: I was thinking of stuff in relation to the old communist or nazi days in Europe... I haven't thought about whether its true in places like Britain... hmm |
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places like britain? try america. they're the "worst" on it right now, which I think the Rupert + Murdoch referance was all about. |
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Are you Morpheus? :D You're probably right, I dont know nothing of matrix theory. |
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well, there's not much i can do..it pisses me off, so i try to avoid it. |
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The obvious problem with control theories is that whatever we say could be seen as being part of the system. For example, what you may learn from philosophers is through the media (their stuff being published). This also supports the one not being able to exist without the other theory. What is printed by the philosophers may be accepted by the ones in control but is needed for our existance. |
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"matrix theory" would be very much like marxist theory, since the cohen brothers have never concieved one singular thought of their own since they were born. neither have I. |
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Man don't tarnish the Cohens' rep :) It was the wakowskis or something wasn't it? |
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True though, they managed to rip off a million films and get away with it. |
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no thought is without influence |
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...and no innovation without originality :p |
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I'm off to bed now, I leave you with this thought: If people from a country were to go into their capital city in a bloody protest of uproar protesting about mass media control then would the media broadcast it? If they did then just imagine how they would manipulate it! Good Night! |
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yes, but those two (whichever brother they may be.. I just mix up names real easy, but I'm talking about the matrix brothers) steal directly without credit. |
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there's a very good Noam Chomsky movie on this, i suggest you look around for it .. it's like 3 hours long, but very good. www.chomsky.info |
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given that humkind is old and there's always been people trying to control the rest. I'd say we're just fucked up, because the system we're inmerse was beiing developed for thosands of years. |
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