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offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-02-09 22:56 [#00084142]
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i just got thru watching this excellent movie starring
ex-neighbours "star" guy pierce - it is a unique experience

10 stars out of 10 stars


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-02-09 23:01 [#00084144]
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agreed

also check out the movie "following" its by the same
director..so like memento, it also has an interesting
premise and plot twits


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-02-09 23:03 [#00084145]
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ding ding!
hey im a regular now!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-02-09 23:14 [#00084150]
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may i be the first to offer congratulations :)


 

offline Frag from New Jersey (United States) on 2002-02-10 00:32 [#00084183]
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I heard the film was good, yes.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-10 00:45 [#00084184]
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i wanna see it!


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-02-10 00:49 [#00084185]
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Guy Pierce was your neighbour? Im not homosexual, but damn,
Guy Pierce is fucking hot.


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-02-10 00:49 [#00084186]
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OH yeah memento was awesome too...


 

offline leftrightronic on 2002-02-10 03:03 [#00084220]
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haha

wayout.. when did following come out btw? i enjoyed this
flik, you have to have a deal of patience to understand and
figure out what's going on, lately some people just don't
have attention for such things. guy is a cool actor though,
great job, he really takes you in the role

:D


 

offline Canerfold from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-02-10 03:17 [#00084226]
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Yeah, Guy is quite a guy. Memento is great fun; had to see
it twice in the theater. Following is also recomended.
It's in the new release section at the video store over here
but I don't know when it was released. I think I liked it
just as much.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-10 03:50 [#00084246]
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Momento was great, could have done it better, but its pretty
sweet indeed.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-02-10 05:53 [#00084332]
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i think following came out a little bit before
memento...because i remember hearing about it on some show
on ifc talking about memento back when that first came
out..its still pretty recent though

and yeah..you definitley need some patience to follow whats
going on...its sort of a mindbender..much like memento..


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-23 11:30 [#00281304]
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so REFLEX, did you make a better version of memento yet - me
and my mate richard d james wanna check it out!


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-06-23 11:32 [#00281306]
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LOL!!


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2002-06-23 11:34 [#00281308]
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I personally think memento is great, but there will be
negative thoughts about this movie posted here very soon...
I remeber this thread where half of the people didn't like
memento and they said it was overrated...


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 11:52 [#00281324]
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it IS overrated.. That movie bored me shitless. All you do
is try to understand what the fuck's happening so you can't
even enjoy the movie. Boring setting, boring actors. It
sucked.



 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-23 12:02 [#00281331]
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I love it...the first time trhu you end up almost as
confused as the guy himself which is good little
technique...

Worth watching a few times to pick up on everything
really...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-23 12:27 [#00281354]
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yo, not all movies have to brainless to be enjoyable - some
movies are enjoyable because, shock, they AREN'T brainless
and they are like puzzles!

i know mr spielberg would be shocked to hear this, but i'm
sure he'll understand when you tell him J198


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2002-06-23 12:30 [#00281357]
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there's is an extra option on the memento dvd to play the
movie in the right order....


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 12:54 [#00281363]
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look, dude. I didnt say the movie was too complicated for me
or anything. As for movies that are like puzzles, there are
a lot of better ones out there.

I can enjoy low budget/independant films just like anybody
here. I loved Pi and Requiem for a dream and other good
movies like those, but this one was just a sad attempt to
confuse people and nothing more.

It's probably also because everybody around me was so
excited about it and when i saw it i expected too much of
it. Still, i dont ever want to see it again.

Just my opinion against the whole world it seems but oh
well, i can enjoy other movies too..


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-23 13:18 [#00281374]
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I loved it. Guy Pearce is great.


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 13:38 [#00281381]
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j198 "All you do
is try to understand what the fuck's happening so you can't

even enjoy the movie"

i dont get it....u cant enjoy the movie cuz its to
complicated ?well that IS the point my dear j198.......its a
very cerebral movie and its trying to make a mental
interaction with the public...and THATS a joy.....
smart people tend to be happy when something mentally
occupies them....but i dont know,maybe u dont count yourself
as one...

anyway its all a matter of choice,u can always watch
"friends" on tv and be happy....


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2002-06-23 13:45 [#00281383]
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or the simpsons, no wait thats too interlect... ? inter...
smart for you :p

bah, memento, it be good... twists and stuff me likey.



 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 14:00 [#00281399]
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Movies can be confusing without overdoing it.. in Memento it
was overdone. There is only this memory loss theme and
nothing else. If you enjoy watching a movie ONLY to get
confused, then i think something is wrong with you.
So dont be a retard yourself by implying that i am not
intelligent enough to understand a movie, thats a bit
childish isn't it?

'Friends' is a great show, but i wouldnt really want to
compare it to any movies.. I watch both happy and unhappy
things, as long as it offers a bit more than hours of
boredom.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-23 14:00 [#00281400]
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"sad attempt to confuse people"? not at all -- it used an
interesting concept to great effect, used with wit and
ingenuity.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 14:01 [#00281402]
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(that was a follow up to d. messiah)

Sundays -> Slow days


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-23 14:03 [#00281404]
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you implied it yourself - it's not overly confusing at all -
it's an engrossing fractured movie - if you found it overly
confusing then maybe you ought to stick to the "intricate"
plot of the hit comedy series "Friends"


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 14:09 [#00281409]
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ok, it wasnt overly confusing, but along with the overall
boring moments, it did not manage to hold my attention.
Again, there are shitloads of good confusing movies with
excellent plots that i enjoy a lot. Fight Club would be a
good example.

Oh and how sad are you when you think its cool to think that
"friends" is a lame show, just like those people here who
think pop music is lame because they listen to electronica
only? Give me a break..


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-23 14:14 [#00281417]
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heh, you always seem to get involved with arguments, eh
J198? =oD

marlowe, stop bullying the lurkers!!!!


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 14:14 [#00281418]
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"There is only this memory loss theme and
nothing else" ??

well have u heard of a term "minimal" ?
its the most minimalistic movie i have seen in a while,and
thats its biggest quality.....its so fuckin deep,were
introduced with the main character,and from that moment were
in his mind,and its our only job-to think his thoughts,and
try to rebuild the complete story just like hes
trying....its very fractured as marlowe said it,and cuz of
that someone may think its overconfusing,but it isnt really
when you play it in normal order.
its a very common story told in a very uncommon and original
way....

phenomenal movie anyway....


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-23 14:16 [#00281424]
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PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THE PART OF MY POST WHICH CALLED
"FRIENDS" LAME

THANK-YOU


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 14:18 [#00281430]
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lol.. fine, fuck it.. i just might watch it again then. Just
dont kill me please?


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 14:20 [#00281433]
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personally i dont think friends are lame cuz theyre pop,itj
just cuz theyre a total crap in every possible aspect of a
tv show....

and i dont think popmusic is lame....i actually think artful
dodger album is better then a 70% of the idm scene....


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-23 14:25 [#00281436]
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it's ok J198 - i wouldn't dream of killing you! definately
watch it again tho! it's a great movie! and it deserves to
be loved and respected coz there's so much trash gettin'
attentiOn!


 

offline Omneignotumus on 2002-06-23 14:43 [#00281451]
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Appreciation of art will always be a matter of personal
preference, both definable and undefinable (and partially
definable); Maybe sometimes when people use language - "The
movie/music sucks." they mean "The movie/music is not
something I personally enjoyed." The first statement seems
to often lead to arguments maybe because it could be
interpreted as an attack on the art itself, and not merely
one on the art's personalized effect. The particular art or
set of art that we each consider to be of the highest
quality (for lack of a better word) has highly varied
effects on other people...I think we all know that. If you
accept this, then maybe you won't feel like an attack made
on something you enjoy is an attack made on you.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-06-23 14:54 [#00281457]
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THANX for that omnei - it was truly fascinating - i learnt a
lot - how much are the fees to join your class next
semester?


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 15:02 [#00281460]
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ha


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 15:03 [#00281461]
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word


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 15:06 [#00281463]
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im currently printing this enlightening post with bigger
fonts and on a3 format,so i can put it on my wall and read
it every time i wake up...


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 15:11 [#00281469]
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no you're not..


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 15:17 [#00281474]
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well in a way youre right
at the time of your post im finished already...

im watching it now and considering what type of frame would
be the best for it..


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 15:31 [#00281492]
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why not tattoo it on your chest?


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 15:38 [#00281500]
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hmmm...no,than i cant read it everytime i want to,and that
would be a pitty...


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-23 15:41 [#00281502]
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did you see the movie or not?
Do you live in your bedroom?


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-06-23 15:50 [#00281504]
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the movie?


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-06-23 17:23 [#00281545]
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why did that movie blow up? in theaters it was in mostly
independent theaters and then somehow it gets all world
famous way after its been on video for a while and then they
hype up insomnia like everyone knows it. i did like the
movie though but it would have been better if less people
knew about it. i dont like when the whole media does stuff
to good movies.


 

offline diemax from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-06-23 17:24 [#00281546]
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...i liked memento


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-23 17:59 [#00281593]
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Momento was one of the best movies I've seen in a very long
time. It was very well done, good plot, interesting things.
Really makes you think. It kept me guessing at a lot of
stuff.

And just when you think you figured out the plot, it slaps
you in the face at the end/beginning.


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-14 07:56 [#01239415]
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my interpretation of this movie *spoiler*

in chronoligical order:

lenny uncovers conman pretending to have memory condition
(sammy), lenny and wife get attacked at home, wife survives,
lenny survives but with memory condition.

Lennys wife goes through the rigmoral we see with sammy
throughout the film, lenny eventually kills his wife (but
not on purpose). Lenny hunts down his wifes attackers with
the help of teddy, finds them, kills them, doesnt remember.
Teddy then abuses lennys condition and gets him to kill drug
dealers and other criminals etc by lying to lenny, sending
him fake police files etc that match the file of his wifes
attackers.

Lenny kills mr handlebar moustache, and makes up 'facts'
that teddy is his wifes attacker so that he'll think its him
and track him down and kill him.

Lenny then takes moustache mans suit, and goes to the bar
moustacheman's mrs works at. She figures out (duh) that he's
killed her bloke, knows teddy did it, and gets lenny to kill
off todd who will inevitably come after her thinking she did
it, she also tricks lenny into killing teddy for killing
moustache man, even though ironically, lenny has set himself
up to kill teddy in the future anyway.

the end.


 

offline Jedy from dublin (Ireland) on 2004-06-14 08:13 [#01239424]
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half decent movie

just a cheap lynch imitation



 


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