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Yes or No ? |
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Universal, Yes. Religion, No. |
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No. |
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Why ? Going to a club = Going to sunday church |
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dude u listen to too much faithless god is not a dj! he doesnt even own decks! |
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Music isn't going to a club. Going to a club is going to a club. The majority of people who listen to music do not go to clubs, and clubs do not play a wide range of music on the whole. Also, Religion is an organised bringing together of people of a similar faith. Music is everything, everywhere, for eternity. |
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Definitely a YES. Also, MUSIC = Universal Language |
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Explain why you believe Music is a Universal Religion. |
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Music tries to achieve a cathartic breakthrough with the audience. Done well, the result is powerful emotional release. Just like the passion of christ |
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la la la la la la la |
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HAHA |
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Music doesn't try anything. Music is an abstract term. If people find solace or power or comfort through music, then that is via their interaction with this newly-made proper noun, Music. You don't exist until you interact. |
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ooh. |
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You could say the same thing about Religion. |
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Religion isn't abstract, so, you could say the same thing about Religion, but you'd be wrong. You're confusing Religion with Spirituality. The two are normally as far apart as is possible. |
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religion? um... depends on your definition of religion i guess... |
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"Religions can be likened to Rat Poison, 99% sweet cookie, 1% arsenic...and 1% arsenic kills...Most religions give you 99% truths and feel good messages....but the 1% lies can kill you" |
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can music kill? |
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religion is there to explain things you dont understand (eg where you go when you die). music is entertainment. |
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music is noise that sounds nice. sure, different noises create different cultures (almost like a religion) but in the end, it is just noise. |
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Go to a Judas Priest concert and find out! FlyAgaric - music is not just 'noise'... it can be felt as well as heard, through vibrations. All senses are the same thing from different perspectives. |
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No shit, FlyAgaric obviously doesn't have a clue. The ignorance found in a statement such as this can only come from unsophistication and a primitive mentality. Simple people + juvenile mentalities = Imbecilic ideas created by the uninformed who are naive to their own ignorance. Sad, I know. Music is not just noise that sounds nice, as you so pathetically put it. That is the most fucking simple-minded view point someone could have. Music is based on mathematical principles, e.g. equations and patterns, and since the whole universe is based off these same mathematical principles; music is a lot more important and powerful than the simple people like you give it credit for. Math can be communicated through music, thus, making music the language of the universe. Case in point, no matter what language a musician speaks, his/her music can still be understood by everyone around the world regardless of what language the listener speaks. So in theory, that in turn suggests that if we ever make contact with intelligent beings from somewhere else in the universe, the only one true thing both of our species would understand is mathematics, which we would then rely on music to communicate with each other. I could go on and on about the power and influence music has had on the human race since the beginning, but it should already be known and realized. I think it's time you left the kiddie pool and attempted surviving in the deep end. Learn to Swim! |
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nyeso |
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haha! ouch man, that hurt :) after reading your lovely short story i think i will stick by my statement (just for the hell of it) even though i never meant to make the idea of music sound unimportant (or make a concrete statement, even though i am aware it was a somewhat ambigious statement). i'm sure autechre use mathematical formulas to create their music (though i wouldn't know) but to me most music is simple verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus (a pretty simple formula). There are obviously exceptions (nothing that would impress aliens though). I've heard a lot of people (including my high school math teachers) say that when aliens do visit earth, we will communicate with math however i'm sure that if we played them vordhosbn they would laugh at how inferior we look at trying to impress them with this noise(?). I'd like to go on but at the moment i'm just masturbating with words trying to live up to your beast of a post. I am, like you said, simple minded (i come from a third world country afterall), so please don't take things i say too seriously. Peace out, homey. |
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i'm sure that if we played them vordhosbn they would laugh at how inferior we look at trying to impress them with this noise(?) I mean really. Why act as though music is universial. Just because earth has music doesnt mean that every living creature in the universe will respond and react to music. Humans are the ones mostly effected by music. If you play a giraffe cannibal corpse or Buddy Miles it isnt going to matter. |
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haha. my dog doesn't respond too well to electronic music. he much prefers music that use organic sounds. at least he seems more relaxed when i play that kind of music. |
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music is most definitely spiritual... music is not necessarily mathematical (this is a western fallacy)... music is just noise that sounds nice, which is precisely why it points to the interconnecting spaces between subjective beings... the question always: why why why why? why haven't i been able to get on this board for days? |
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Yes. In my manner of making music i dont use time sigs, or think about math in the least. I make music by ear. If someone wants to look at the sound from a mathimatical standpoint then thats all and great. Music can be applied to the idea of being spiritual but to say music is spiritual is not entirely true. There is nothing spiritual about the music i make. I think we as people tend to look into things too deeply to find meaning in our own lives. This is proven by that faiip guy or whatever. I mean talk about taking a personal idea/belief and shoving it down the throat like a large cock of an unwilling participant. I hate when people act all knowing. The fact of the matter is that no one knows shit. We like music and we listen to music and there you have it. You cant go much further than this with out adopting faith/beliefs. And to make any point solid you will need evidence/proof. Spirituality would have to do with a higher power or spirit. Some people dont belive in that shit. You see where i am going with this. Ah well.... look at us..... taking a monoid thread seriously. I blame jocco |
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I concur |
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i don't think spirituality necessarily entails some sort of faith in a higher being... just a belief in a sentience beyond the explanation of our current scientific paradigm (sorry i can't think of a more simple term)... why do you make certain choices instead of others? why is it that one melody stops you in your tracks and another leaves you cold? |
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that being said i just have to congratulate you (and awt) once again on an awesome album made. i made copies for a few people and so far everyone loves it to bits. there's something special about it i can't quite put my finger on, great vibe. made my car trip (and my sleep last night - very dreamlike music!) very enjoyable. hope im not coming on too strong, trying to suck your dick and all. |
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spirituality is a difficult thing to describe because different people have differing opinions and concepts based on it making it very difficult to discuss. Can music be related to spirituality? Yes in certain instances it can. There is music made for meditation/oobe, you have music that deals with worship and praise etc etc. More or less i believe that music is/has more or less to do with emotions and thoughts. Perhaps one would like to make songs that sound like seasons (yagya). Its a form of art that is audible and helps to develop mental images. It can be used to put one in a variety of moods. Depending on the outcome that is required. If you are going to a death metal concert chances are that you will be listening to death metal. You know what i mean? I dislike faiip's description and talking down to FlyAgaric. |
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Hey thanks! It's great to know that people really enjoy it as much as we did and still do. Hopefully i will be able to send you a copy of our second one when it is complete. |
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that would be great. i wont have broadband this time around to download the whole thing. |
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trick question! lemmy is god. |
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