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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 08:41 [#01503113]
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yes, you!
the two other threads made me think a bit more about the rhetorical strengths of being in posession of a certain nick on this mb... the personality attached to the nick and other members regard of these personailties make a huge impact on how any given post by certain members is accepted/shunned/ignored/etc.
Tolstoyed, for instance may be the most respected member of the board, and may more or less permit himself any opinion which most likely won't be ridiculed (as opposed to elusives political views, which are subject to being ridiculed even if they are accepted by the person ridiculing them), but rather discussed properly or politely if people disagree...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-18 08:44 [#01503119]
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What information would you like to know
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 08:44 [#01503120]
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when i meet people in person, i'm good at quickly learning what they're all about. this is text - it throws things way off for me. some people i can figure out (unless everything they say is a lie, which is possible), others i can't. i won't make any comments on others here, though.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-02-18 08:45 [#01503122]
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i've never ridden a unicycle.
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-18 08:45 [#01503123]
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are you drunk? lol answer my turntable question pleaze
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-02-18 08:47 [#01503126]
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wait...
what?
are you saying that it's a person's nick that determines people's reactions to their posts? and not the rhetorical strength of their posts?
*note to self: change nick asap*
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 08:48 [#01503130]
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yeah, but this is not a representation of the person, it is an entirely new person in itself... you have certain views of people here which you can't get around.. you enter certain threads with more hostility because they were created by a certain person...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 08:49 [#01503131]
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you don't visit autechre related threads much, do you :)
seriously though, i got idea about pretty much every regular posting member here, and i agree with what you say..the first thing i check when reading a particular post is who wrote it, just so i know in what way to reply..
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 08:49 [#01503132]
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I once worked at McDonald's, aged 17.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 08:49 [#01503134]
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nothing specific. this thread is a result of narcissism and over-reading.. and some boredom. just say whatever you feel like, 'cause you're one of those people who can...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 08:50 [#01503135]
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oh, sorry i missed the point. that's true. sometimes even the avatar is what you associate their personality with. by and large, i've been able to defeat that instinctive pattern recently, though.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-18 08:50 [#01503137]
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nor have i
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 08:51 [#01503138]
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Choice of avatar is linked to personality, because it is the image that the user has decided to represent them on this board.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-02-18 08:51 [#01503139]
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well my username is quite unoriginal but in life i'm definitely not banal... i could never think of a name that could represent me, maybe that's cause the image i have of myself is too blurred to be expressed in a few letters.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 08:52 [#01503141]
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no, not the words or letters in the nick, but the person the nick represents... this is not the same as an everyday person, nor is it a real person; it is in fact less...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 08:53 [#01503143]
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do you suppose that's true in every case? what if someone intentionally uses an avatar that's completely the opposite of their personality in real life and they are seeking to decieve?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 08:53 [#01503144]
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Be wary of saying things like "I'm definitely not banal". It's up there with people who say banal things like "I'm totally crazy, me".
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-02-18 08:55 [#01503149]
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it's the same with real life people. i think.
but wait, we are real people.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 08:56 [#01503152]
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In that case, it is still an indicator of their character. Choice of avatar must be linked to the persona projected. Obviously, to base your judgement of somebody's character on one thing is fatally flawed.
For instance, my avatar, in conjunction with my Xltronic persona could lead to at least two conclusions.
1) My avatar is ironic
2) I believe that Nazis DO rule, but not the literal NAZI party of Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, but a new facism of Multinational Corporations, corrupt governments and control of the masses through media, etc.
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xceque
on 2005-02-18 08:56 [#01503153]
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I seem to have a knack of finding interesting (to me) threads and posting in them just as everybody else has stopped. Maybe this is because I'm late. Maybe it's because folks become wary when they see my nick. Maybe it's a disagreable nick. I don't like it any more but I'm stuck with it.
I don't believe in nominative determinism but maybe that's cos I've got an unconvincing nick. o_0
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-02-18 08:58 [#01503157]
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True, I usually find a strong link between the avatar and the content of the post. But sometimes I don't though. The no image available avatar makes me overlook the users post though. It's the equivalent of someone shouting in the dark.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-02-18 08:59 [#01503158]
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i can thrill you more than any ghoul would ever dare try, which is not banal.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 09:00 [#01503162]
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Just words.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 09:01 [#01503163]
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3) you support nazism.
i assumed the first one. but i'm inclined to agree with your main point now.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-02-18 09:01 [#01503165]
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I find the avatar personality connection pretty strong I second vlari on the overlooking non avatar posts it's always nice to memorise peoples avatars and personalities, it makes the ocnversation a lot smoother
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 09:03 [#01503167]
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PAX ÆTERNA
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 09:03 [#01503169]
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of course the avatar also has a part to say.. for instance Big always seems happy and friendly with his current avatar even though he could be insulting you or something like that...
matvey: I don't think the people on here are real people on here.. this is only a fraction of me, and it isn't even based on me, it is based on YOUR conception of me, which is more concrete and more defined than I am, since everything I've said that you've seen and constructed "Drunken Mastah" on is fairly well documented in the fact that it is here until phobs empties his database... everyone on this messageboard is a concrete person, as opposed to real life where we may even be different persons (I think Gadamer had the concept of the "plays" that we parttake in, but it's been a while since I read that)...
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 09:03 [#01503170]
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It's because often whatever you type can only be replied to with "I completely agree.", you kill a lot of topics with wisdom, intentionally or not.
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yann_g
from now on 2005-02-18 09:05 [#01503173]
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that's where u don't get it.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 09:07 [#01503176]
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Or possibly because you use phrases like Nominative Determinism, when "maybe it's because of my name, like" would have sufficed, AND the foreigners would understand that better!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 09:08 [#01503177]
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eternal peace? i'm not sure i understand how i'm supposed to interpret what you're saying.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 09:12 [#01503182]
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yeah, once again, the words, meaning or letters in the nick doesn't really matter... the nick is the "physical" (in as broad a sense as that exists on the internet) representation of the total sum of my posts.. even though the whole always is more than the sum of the parts, namely the thoughts you connect to my nick.
if it did, you'd all have to concieve me as constantly drunk (which I may be).
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-02-18 09:13 [#01503186]
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i believe all who post regularly and those who are going to post regularly (recently joined) can be referred to as real people (at least by me), because i have an impression on them basing on their words.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 09:13 [#01503187]
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I was blessing you.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-02-18 09:15 [#01503193]
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shit, i can't clearly express my thought. i'm off for today then.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 09:16 [#01503198]
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i have a pretty good image of you..it's easier to make opinions on a person once you know they're being honest.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 09:18 [#01503203]
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oh! haha... thanks!
i find the things you have to say intelligent and interesting (not only in this thread but in others).
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 09:20 [#01503207]
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Thanks, r40f - I've always enjoyed your posts. You seem a sound unpretentious fellow.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-18 09:22 [#01503209]
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i'll probably vote SDP in the forthcoming election
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 09:22 [#01503210]
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that's certainly a relief! :D
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-02-18 09:22 [#01503211]
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Still in the womb of the 1980s, pete ?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 09:27 [#01503223]
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that and the following post are perfect examples of what I'm saying, so...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 09:42 [#01503246]
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actually, i didn't pass judgement on the person behind the nick. i said what i thought about his posts.
now taking it a step further, i deduce that he must be rather intelligent to conceive of these posts, but that's the most i've expanded on. i still don't expect to know him as he is in real life... not even close.
so yes, the things we say become associated with our nicks and avatars... we become, whether we realize it or not, prejudiced towards people (for good or ill) based on these identifications. what else are you getting at?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-18 09:47 [#01503252]
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not much more than that... except for maybe determining the rhetorical weight that can be applied by each and every one of us.
I need food, though.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-18 09:53 [#01503258]
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Nicknames and avatars mean nothing to me. They are just a form of expression based on thoughts and feelings at a certain time that they were picked.
I chose Wilford Brimley because weatheredstoner and myself got into a coversation that branched off and wound up with brimley jokes which carried over to this avatar.
Although i am usually honest on this board, i think that only comes across in certain posts.
Take for example that thread i made about owing money. Then you can take that post and put it together with various other posts of mine and come to the conclusion that:
1. I am not responcible with money 2. I am intoxicated around 80% of the time. 3. I am interested in non american girls. Perferably asian and latino.
4. I am a slut
I am usually very up front when i am not posting pure shit. Those shit posts occur under intoxocation.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-18 09:53 [#01503259]
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everybody needs food
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 09:59 [#01503273]
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that's basically true...
but what is being said now is that even if someone uses a seemingly-arbitrary avatar, it must be at least a small reflection of that person's personality. perhaps only on a subconcious level. what the wilford brimley-afterthought avatar says to me is that here's something you think is funny and decided to express in an avatar, perpetuating the joke. it's likely that that's a small glimpse into who you are.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-18 10:00 [#01503274]
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Yeah, I initially took a dislike to Anus Presley because of his nickname, but after actually reading his posts for a bit came to respect him, he's a sound bloke.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-02-18 10:02 [#01503281]
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and the other thing you said... people will all draw their own conclusions about virginpusher based on what he says, and that's unavoidable. those conclusions will most likely be as different and varied as the people reading them. but we will all associate what we've taken from your posts with "virginpusher".
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-18 10:02 [#01503282]
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True i am a very lighthearted joking person by nature
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