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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-17 11:05 [#01502532]
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Ok at this point, this doesnt matter I suppose. By now we know that Fluorescent Grey faked "version 2" of Untilted. He claimed he kept LCC and Pro Radii, because those were the tracks that everyone hated and loved the most, respectively.
Ok. Well if we all have nothing left to "believe in, " it seems many of you have jumped back to defending version 1's validity, while choosing to ignore the equally well founded "clues" that this still might indeed NOT be
a representative of the final album. (more on that later)
In any case, could someone please explain why it is I have 2 different versions of LCC? Let me be explicitly clear here:
-LCC version 1 (that I had first) clips in its volume at the end, the volume drops out throughout the track unintentionally, and the entire second have cross fades between 2 different songs in a unconvincing manner. Gone are the old-fashioined AE synths, etc. I got this track late Saturday night 2/12/2005
-LCC version 2 (that Flourescent Grey 'borrowed' for his version) seems more realized then version 1 and although exactly the same for the first 3:15s, its is different throughout the second half and more convincing that it is real.
So, the version 1 leak 'broke' late saturday. The version most people got at that point is here (ysi).
I'm curious if someone can explain this, if version 1 is sooooo real.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-17 11:11 [#01502546]
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it's not LCC, it's Lcc
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-17 11:27 [#01502586]
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ok
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-17 11:38 [#01502595]
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There will be no track called LCC nor Lcc on the new album, nor indeed any of the titles made up by Phobia and Autechre whilst they were sipping virtual lattes, wetting themselves coming up with cliched IDM titles and waiting for all the house-bound, would be Situationists to use the names to title their own insipid DSP vomits and claim them as the new Autechre album.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 11:38 [#01502596]
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lcc is quite nice really..i just wish the melodies would be a bit louder..
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-02-18 05:00 [#01502795]
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CCM makes great helmets
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panda
from Lanndaannnn you slag (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-18 05:05 [#01502806]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onemusic/rob/
near the bottom of the tracklist
2h23
havent listened to it yet (sorry if this was already posted up just thought it might help with all the arguments about whether its real or not)
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panda
from Lanndaannnn you slag (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-18 05:08 [#01502810]
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oh wait it cant be 2hr23m in cos its only 2 hours long. duh. sorry
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 05:13 [#01502822]
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Apparently the track rob played was exactly the same as one of the tracks off the first leak. But I haven;t listened to either so I cannot back up this claim.
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xceque
on 2005-02-18 05:27 [#01502840]
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I thought it was "icc"
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 05:30 [#01502841]
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fermium apparantly... although better mastered? confiriming leak 1 is REAL!???
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 05:32 [#01502842]
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but is this a good or bad thing? I don't' listen to the opinions of many people here due to vastly differing tastes and the peoples opinion I listen to generally about music off this board don't share my love of autechre. So I have to wait and see myself in a couple of months.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 05:36 [#01502847]
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its all bollocks at the end of the day tho cos apparantly ae sent out that promo with fakes on it cos they knew arsehole journo's would leak it.. so they can have the last laff. wudnt suprise me, after all this IDM.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 05:39 [#01502849]
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and autechre are possibly the most intelligent musicians i know of. and this is such an obvious potential pitfall... innit?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 05:41 [#01502850]
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well fakes on it but unfinished/crappy trax
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 05:42 [#01502851]
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Apparantly according to whom? I think it is the typical bury your head in the sand mentality of people who listen to 'IDM'. Smojphace was apparently Richard playing a joke, Analord is Richard fooling stupid people into buying substandard music (never mind the fact that I, along with many other people, absolutely love the Analords), now autechre are fooling people by releasing fakes. Given that reviews are going to be written based on the promo version I doubt they would send shite out. As I haven't heard the so called 'leaks' yet I can offer no opinion of my own on the individual tracks, but Tob Da Bank playing the track last night leads me to begin to beleive it may indeed be the genuine release.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 05:43 [#01502852]
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As I have said in the past...it is OK not to like something.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 05:47 [#01502855]
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the radio show supports the theory i put forward and indeed why i think this will be proven true. its not ok to be an impatient asshole illegally downloading any new material... hopefuly this will teach us all a lesson... a lesson im not prepared to learn. anyways, wheres leak 1? afterall, it probably is ae, just not untilted.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 05:49 [#01502856]
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as for reviews this baffles me... i still havent seen one review of any analord and not a sniff of one for untilted... if history has taught anything it is that these promos get leaked, not reviewed.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 05:50 [#01502857]
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They played a new ae track, whch has appeared on a leaked version of the album this new ae track is supposed to be on, about the time that tracks traditionally start being played on Radio 1 (about 6 weeks before release) and it supports your thoery in what way.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 05:52 [#01502860]
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well either that or the majority of, or indeed all of, leak one is real then?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 05:54 [#01502863]
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The first leak is probably real. Is it really that bad?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 05:56 [#01502866]
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Board activity has made me a little suspicious though.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 06:00 [#01502869]
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i havent heard it although i dont think it will displease me; im just glad for artists like ae, and even yourself if youd like to finish a damn song. bored activity?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 06:33 [#01502897]
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the first leak isn't all that bad, if you liked draft you're going to like this as well, both albums are very similar. infact there's a bit more variety on untilted actually so i think i like this one a bit more..
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 06:35 [#01502898]
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I didn't like Draft all that much. I found it a little bland in places. I am still looking forward to the new one though.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 06:38 [#01502901]
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well, in that case lets hope leak 1 was fake as well :) i too would prefer something more confield oriented or something completly different. this one could easilly be cd2 of draft imo..
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 06:40 [#01502902]
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i find draft and confield similar.. and rather bland in parts.. i try with them all the time.. not sure if i have the patience.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2005-02-18 06:41 [#01502904]
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leak 1 is quite decent
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 06:43 [#01502905]
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i don't know..confield is my fav autechre album and pretty much the only album/ep that i can enjoy as a whole..i can't listen to draft though, those drumm patterns (i wish they were milder) bore me to death..
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 06:47 [#01502908]
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i see... how many listens did confield take for you to become fav? i love pretty much everything BUT draft and confield (although i do own them) so i may give conny another shot tonight. im just so impatient, im gonna leave it playing a few times i reckon and come back to you. its mad tho because i mean i LOVE most of their other stuff! i own most of their albums on cd now.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 06:50 [#01502912]
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hmm, i bought it when it came out, i gave it a listen in the shop and apperantly liked it enough to buy it, but then i kind of put it aside and started listening after a while again. i loved some songs imediatly, but to like the whole thing it was quite a long process :-)
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 06:54 [#01502915]
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the non-linearity of their later stuff kind of fucks with me and makes me a little uneasy. its uneasy listening at times. the beats seem to betray the melodies at times.. and it sounds sooo techy. i just find it hard to enjoy, unlike pretty much everything pre-draft.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 06:57 [#01502918]
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sorry, pre-confield... although i adore pre-confield stuff. however, the unique sound and rythm of their latter stuff is fascnating to me, im just not sure if i can appreciate it musically.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 07:08 [#01502920]
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"the beats seem to betray the melodies at times"
that's what bothers me the most with draft and this new one (if it's the real untilted that is, because it sounds more like songs that didn't make it to draft or something..).
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 07:09 [#01502922]
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"it sounds more like songs that didn't make it to draft or something"
that could be exactly what leak 1 is..
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-02-18 08:21 [#01503070]
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you know.. just to add more into the mix, i found this link http://www.cerebralnoise.com/mp3/autechre%20-%20lcc%20(samp too from some japanese site: le).mp3
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-02-18 08:24 [#01503072]
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hmm interesting.. it was there yesterday and now it's gone :o
anyway i heard it and it sounded nothing like the one(s) being leaked on slsk...
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2005-02-18 08:24 [#01503074]
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it's not there
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-02-18 08:25 [#01503079]
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ah wait.. found it again i think - did a little snooping: http://www.cerebralnoise.com/mp3/AE%20Beat.mp3
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-02-18 08:27 [#01503085]
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mind you, it's only a sample...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 08:28 [#01503088]
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i don't have audio here at work..does it sound better or worse to those leaks?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-18 09:12 [#01503181]
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Hmmm.... jenf, what is that? whatever it is sounds a bit "inspired by" if you know what i mean...
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-02-18 09:39 [#01503239]
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EOD
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-18 09:42 [#01503247]
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Jesus jenf, I hope that isn't the new autechre...it just sounds like something I would make (ie. shit)
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-18 10:06 [#01503289]
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Lcc is fantastic
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