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[rumor] kill bill vol3
 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-13 10:11 [#01497148]
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has anyone heard about a vol3 in which vivica fox's
daughter gets her revenge on the bride for taking out her
mommy? ive heard this many times and from many different
people but have not been able to find anything concrete on
it.

i couldnt say i would be very excited about such a movie
though, as i thought vol1 was frigging awesome, and vol2 was
just ok - maybe quentin should have just condensed it down
to one movie.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-13 10:16 [#01497151]
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oh bloody hell, you've just ruined the first 2, i have'nt
seen them yet.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-02-13 10:17 [#01497152]
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vol3 would be a mistake. vol2 was already going steadily
downhill


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-13 10:25 [#01497158]
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tarantino is way overhyped.


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2005-02-13 10:28 [#01497162]
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it should have been 1 movie


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-13 10:30 [#01497164]
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i couldnt agree more with this


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-13 10:30 [#01497166]
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youre very welcome


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2005-02-13 10:32 [#01497168]
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WHAT? volume 2 was the better of them. vol 1 went on way too
long 2 had more of a movie feel to it. i wasn't impressed by
much in one. that battle in japan was long and dull kinda
like the type of knife i wish i had so i could cut myself
during the scene


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-13 10:32 [#01497169]
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volume 1 was okay, volume 2 was pretty dire.

I don't think he'd do a volume 3 though.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-13 10:34 [#01497172]
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really? i think he would be all over it - it seems right up
his alley, especially since he even bothers to put vol1 vol2
on these movies, its inevitable - as they say.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-13 10:36 [#01497174]
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yes, because he had to chop up the films and call them
volume 1 and 2, he MUST also make a volume 3. AND 4. AND 5.
AND 6. in fact, he MUST make as many volumes as there are
fathomable numbers!

it is not only logical, it is inevitable.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-13 10:40 [#01497178]
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i think he will do a 3, only because his ass has been
smootched for vols 1 and 2 so much, but ive heard some
things on the plot and the little girl gets revenge on her
dead mommy. but after 3, that will be all - unless he comes
out with pulp fiction 2.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-13 10:41 [#01497179]
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He is doing a 3. The date of production in his mind is 2017
so it gives the actors a change to age. The two kids will
end up battling. That is what i have heard. But in 12 years
anything can change


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2005-02-13 11:22 [#01497215]
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i had heard rumors of an animated prequal and sequal.

and i absolutely loved both Kill Bill Vol's!


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2005-02-13 12:26 [#01497245]
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Kill Bill is great.

As the ending credits rolled in Vol. II, I thought about
Vernita Green's daughter, but not in the sense that I
expected a "Vol. III". I mean, the title is Kill Bill; the
Bride's mission was complete by that time. Still, what about
Green's daughter? It remains as a cliffhanger I reckon.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-13 12:28 [#01497248]
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well, bill is not just a name, it could also mean a list of
people to kill, or as in the sentence "we have the romones
on the bill tonight" - so as in a roster of some sort.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-02-13 13:03 [#01497271]
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I loved Kill Bill(s) thoroughly


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-02-14 05:49 [#01497934]
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Kill Bill volumes one and two are, as usual with Tarantino,
like Christianity - a mish-mash of lots of different sources
tailor-made for Westerners who think they're really great,
or cool.

Here's a hint - they're not. Zatoichi, for instance, blows
Kill Bill out of the water, as do the myriad films he's
stolen from since he first forced Reservoir Dogs upon us. In
a way, he's a lot like the West - he steals from others and
manages to lose the soul on the way. People love him because
they find his dialogue hip, or his action scenes crazy and
imaginative, but I find it painfully self-conscious and
vacuous.

To quote Cyndi Lauper, that's what I think :p


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2005-02-14 05:55 [#01497938]
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I find that a lot of people who slag off people for not
being underground enough or catering to a larger audience
are just being elitist and think that they, in turn are
somewhat cooler for being intelligent and cultured enough to
see past the hype and get in touch with their inner cynic.

I prefer to enjoy my movies than look down my nose at them.



 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2005-02-14 05:57 [#01497940]
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^^ Marlowe that wasn't (entirely) at you and had a lot more
bite than it was sposed to, sorry that just gets on my
nerves time to time.

Anyway sorry dude


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-14 05:58 [#01497941]
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^ What he said.

I thought vol 1 was good, vol 2 was better.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-02-14 06:06 [#01497944]
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I liked vol 1 more than 2. 1 left me feeling all hyped and
two was pretty much story. I don't watch a drama for action
scenes, so its pretty silly to expect story from an action
movie. Expecially a story that tripe.

Although the martial arts training scenes and the graveyard
scene were classic.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-02-14 06:08 [#01497945]
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Tarrantino said in an interview he will probly end up making
a third one about the daughter getting revenge, but that
won't be for quite a few years (he guessed at around 20).

He also mentioned wanting to elaborate on the oren ishi
story in anime format.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-02-14 06:32 [#01497958]
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It doesn't apply to me, since I wasn't talking about being
'underground' (whatever the fuck that means any more), or
catering to a large audience. Zatoichi was Beat Takeshi's
conscious attempt to make a blockbuster. So don't feel the
need to apologise.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-02-14 06:33 [#01497959]
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I thought vol 1 was good, vol 2 was better. If it bothers
you that Kill Bill 'steals' from other films... well I
wouldn't like to say you don't get it, but that probably
would explain why I enjoyed it and you didn't. I find
Tarantino's dialogue entertaining so in that sense I think
he is really good at it. I think Kill Bill has good pace,
it's fun and serious in a mix that I don't think I've seen
much before.

The way I heard it was the sequel (or prequel or whatever it
was) would be a full animated movie. I remember there being
an interview quote. I don't think it was anything more than
a floaty idea though.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-02-14 06:36 [#01497960]
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One, it's not just Kill Bill, it's every film he's made,
Two, explain why I don't get it.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-02-14 06:37 [#01497962]
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i didn't like 1st and haven't seen 2nd.
if there is going to be 3rd, it will be okay. A little more
dead bodies is always good as for me.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-02-14 06:38 [#01497965]
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one thing always bothered me about kill bill2....

if the bride is like superman, wouldnt that mean bill is
lois lane? and knives and bullets are like the brides'
kryptonite - her one weakness.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-02-14 06:44 [#01497969]
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I didn't say you didn't get it. I just personally find the
references, specific or vague, amusing and neccesary to the
film, and I'm sure there are many that I didn't understand
what they were taken from but I don't really care all that
much. Why would you ever watch Kill Bill if you don't want
to see scenes stolen from martial arts films?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-02-14 06:51 [#01497976]
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I wasn't referring to scenes of Martial Arts, although I did
find them pretty crappy, but that's not part of my dislike
of Tarantino. I watched the films because I bought the DVDs
for my girlfriend, who likes them.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-02-14 06:55 [#01497980]
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At least she has two satisfying things in her life then


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-02-14 07:35 [#01498024]
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Nicely reverting to cheap shots there, Dannn_


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-02-14 07:38 [#01498030]
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Its valentines day, I'm bitter, fuck you


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-14 07:50 [#01498046]
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lol


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-02-14 08:32 [#01498090]
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i was entertained by the first two, so maybe it would be
nice to have a third.

personally i'd like to see the animated pre-post-quels.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-02-14 08:35 [#01498092]
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i always skip straight to the fight scenes, the parts
between are pants and the cartoon seemed strangely
inappropriate


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-02-14 08:38 [#01498095]
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i'd like to see more blood. longer fountains, covering
bigger surface. More attention should be paid to the blood
fountains by the cameramen. Like, not less than 25 seconds
for each and more, depending on the order of appearance or
how good the corpse fought.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-02-14 08:40 [#01498098]
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you are so right.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2005-02-14 10:55 [#01498391]
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naw, Kill Bill is a movie guy's movie, made by a guy who
loves movies. it is an amalgam of things Tarantino loves in
his favorite films, and it is meant as an homage. He took
ideas from these films he loved and made them his own. He
may have borrowed, or in the way of Hip Hop music, sampled
from other sources, but in the end, Kill Bill is all
Tarantino!



 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-02-14 19:27 [#01499087]
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I sort of agree but I would like to poiint out that
Taraintino is a cunt and a terrible wigger


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-14 20:51 [#01499314]
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grammies with gza....right?

yeah, that was pretty bad, but oddly enough hes a genius,
whod have thunk that a geek would be a genius.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-02-16 07:08 [#01500877]
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There is a difference between Homage and Rip-Off. Tarantino
is a rip-off. I'm a 'movie guy' and I don't see Kill Bill in
that way whatsoever, so maybe you shouldn't speak on behalf
of 'movie guys'. He's copied some fight scenes from martial
arts, without capturing any of its soul and spirit. In my
book, that makes him fake.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-02-16 14:06 [#01501322]
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are you saying movies have souls/spirits? surely blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah. blah.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-02-16 14:18 [#01501330]
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I disagree, being a movie guy as well. He just saturated it
with a large dose of america and an even larger serving of
pizzazz and left it out on the sil to rot.

It was a good time, and nothing more.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-02-16 14:23 [#01501333]
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They really tried to market Tarantino as 'movie guy' because
then people who watch Kill Bill get to feel like a movie guy
too without having to watch any other movies. I think if he
had captured the soul and spirit that would have been more
of a rip off, in the same way Richard Cheese songs are fun;
the soul and the spririt is completely different. But what
do I know I'm not incredibly arrogant, I just watched a film
and liked it.

mrgypsum - I said that before I saw the Grammy photos (with
RZA wasn't it?) but that backs up my point... he always
makes me cringe in interviews with his Wu Wear on.



 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-16 14:23 [#01501334]
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Zaitochi was a fucking awesome film and well worthy of
carrying on the blind swordsmans legend.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2005-02-16 14:38 [#01501350]
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this film doesn't age well. They were fine the first time
in the cinema or whatever but now they seem stupid. It's
also a pretty stilted, specific type of acting geared solely
to a certain type of genre. That is shit, obscure Japanese
kung fu movies that Quentin likes so much./


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2005-02-16 17:23 [#01501659]
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i never liked this movie I or II


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2005-02-16 19:42 [#01501822]
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I'm a 'movie guy' too. i guess our opposing 'movie guy'
factions will have to agree to disagree, such is the nature
of personal opinions. for example, in my own personal
opinion, Zatoichi absolutely does not blow Kill Bill out of
the water. mostly because of the inexcusably lame
line-dancing scene at the end. Zatoichi wasn't even an
original character, having been resurrected from a series of
older, better, Japanese films. I'm not saying Zatoichi was
bad though, just not as good as Kill Bill. my 'movie guy'
opinion, of course!


 


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