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morning all!! i was diiging through my old tweles last night and came across a load of stuff off the 'no-u-turn' label-dark dark lo-fi drum and bass feat ed rush, dj fierce, nico etc-absolute quality!!-does anyone know if this label is still going? or has it folded? also had a skip through some old metalheadz stuff-'the angels fell' by peshay and 'here come the drumz' by doc scott-fantastic!! any drum and bass heads out there? what your opinion on this?has it become a bit lost as a genre or style? -i used to buy a load of the stuff, but of late im a bit out of touch-any recommendations?? |
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hi ken, i used to kick on some no-u-turn releases, but unfortunatly there is no major developpement in drum'n'bass today. right now i am more into that retro-80s-electro-thing ;-) what is it like in the uk? is there still a dnb-scene? .a |
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afternoon andreas erm..well not really no-there was a huge scene-obviously kickstarted in a more mainstream manner by goldies 'timeless' album (which is merely ok..) but there was a noticable decline after ronnie size's first album won a brit award over here-dont no why this had such an effect.. its sad, because innovators such as source direct released some real groundbreaking stuff then faded into oblivion-the same can be said for photek-who returned with solaris-moving onto ibiza garage style nonsense. its a true shame-i remember the good old days of literally creaming myself when i had the latest metalheadz release in my hands, and the no u turn output trully took my breath away-id love to know whats happening with those producers now. danny breaks as well-his droppin science label was incredible-some full on dark beated up jungle. man-its weird though-the whole scene just seemed to fade into nothing along with the renowned clubs following suit...dunno-maybe there will be a renaissance of this stuff, bogdan is releasing some mix album of old skool classics (although i have also heard that its just some of his stuff!!)-but im sure their will be a resurgence in time. ever heard of 'arkon 2'? -i had a dub plate that was the darkest thing i ever heard-it proper blew the candles out!!!! anyone else have an opinion on why drum and bass seems to have become a dodo??? |
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Hey what about DJ Teebee - Klute - Polar. I think they are the only true DnB innovators nowadays. |
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It's gone commercial. That's why. Keep it underground and the true scene will remain. Keltech has the strength to keep it that way: When oceanic drum and bass was haute couture, Keltech was making banging hard-step. When jazzy drum and bass was all the rage, Keltech made banging hard-step. Now that drum and bass has come full circle and we are hearing more of a house influence -- guess what -- Keltech is making banging hard-step. This man, who hails from Cardiff, Wales, is locked into the same sound that makes Panacea, The Advocate, and UFO! tick: ruff and tough bass-heavy drum and bass. Keltech was introduced to dance music through the rave explosion in Britain in the early '90s. He soon began promoting his own parties in and around Cardiff and bringing in the big names. The progression from promoter to producer came in '96 under his Critical Adjustment alias. Initially, Keltech was picked up by Second Skin (home to King Kooba) and the U.S. Intelligent imprint. He set up the Pyraplastic label to further his experiments into dark drum and bass, and to explore the realms of nu-school breaks. "Agony" is a firing hard-stepper with corrosive breaks, ominous chord soundscapes, and heavily filtered kicks. This is the sort of music that would sound at home on a loud sound system at an illegal party in a derelict building somewhere in East London. Get the picture? In contrast, "Fear Mind Killer," at 135 B.P.M., would fit perfectly into an Adam Freeland nu-breaks set. Keltech even experiments with dark hip hop breaks; check "Chewy" and "Fat 64" for the results. /Luke Magnuson - awesome dark drum&bass |
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well, i think it got very common. you know, you can see tv-ads or teasers with some drum'n'bass rythms... the industry desperately tried to commercialize drum'n'bass by hyping people like dj rap or even breakbeat era. this didn't work. i still love a good d'n'b party - but those days when kemistry & strom were playin' (i was lucky enough to see them twice in germany) are defenetly gone, i think. btw, i am still waiting for the next real big thing in the 00ies. 90ies was techno (in it's largest sense) : deconstruction of music. so what will come up next? .a |
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no new things will come... only rebirth of old shit |
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who knows? it does seem like there is a resurgence in acid-have seen afx dj a few times now and his sets do resemble a lot of the direction of drukqs-ie the stuff he unleashes on the floor-maybe thats why it has disappointed so many-its not as out there as he other stuff as it sounds old-now that aint such a bad thing for an artist to do, im just not sure its the right thing for afx-then again, he doesnt really give a fuck what he puts out-and the only reason drukqs was a double was so that he didnt have to fulfill his two album deal with warp. personally id like to see a resurgence in drum and bass-but phobs point is a valid one-its overground now so whatever comnes out in this manner will have lost its appeal-you'll get that with any style-even acid which despite its charms will still sound retro. its just that here in the uk the drum and bass scene has become nonchalant-a lot of the true originators talked non stop about how the style could be furthered and developed-almost as if amongst the programming the 'freeform' jazz elemnt would hold it afloat-i dunno-it did seem that the genre just stopped-even goldie in an interview mentioned setting up a third label alongside metalheadz and razors edge-to concentrate on a more xeperimental angle.would anyone else agree that the movement just stopped? id agree with andreas-the advertising bastards took the ltj bukem/looking good- watered down style and introduced a crummy version of drum and bass that was just plain annoying. id say that had a huge affect-what do you guys think? |
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i tell you what though-aphex dropped 'super sharp shooter' by the ganja kru in one of his sets-bwoy id not heard that for time-evryone got jiggy on the floor-thats the thing about drum and bass-its sounds fantastic through a p.a. -like the throb of a bass you get through jamaican sound systems...its well powerful on all the senses.. |
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thena gainnico talked about merging the no u turn sound with german techno, and the last i heard he was moving over there to investigate and experiment-never heard anything since...but the techno elemnt in proper hardstep cannot be ignored...thats what i loved about the movement -it drew on so many genres but yet created a new sound...sorry for amount of posts-all these thoughts are coming to me now... |
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i don't know. hope there will be something new and creative some day :) .a |
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absolutely-i guess its difficult to predict-i would imagine though that technology (advances in software) and the way music is made (with the advant of collaborations on the net??) will play a huge role-and not just in the creation of idm styles-talent always seems to appear when theres little going down-thats why drum and bass sounded so fresh to my ears in its hey day-and still does. yep cant wait for the new new. (;>) |
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They certainly don't make it like they used to, I used to mix "techstep" as we liked to call it 94-98. The first tracks that got me into that sound was The Force is Electric, West Side Sax and August, all by ED RUSH+NICO (no u turn) , I got hooked on the sound immediatly (low blines and drum programming) and bought alot of the following releases by them as well as others on (position)CHROME/ AUDIOBLUEPRINT/ METALHEADS/ GYRATION/ MOOVING SHADOW/ VIRUS, I don't think I will ever be able to sell my old techstep/whateveryouwanttocallit collection, there are some amazing tracks of a style which seems hard to find nowdays, (for me anyhow) |
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