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offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-07 14:55 [#01490614]
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just got a new firewall & i'm a bit unsure of it. i know
about some on-line scans, any recommendations grateful.
cheers.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-02-07 14:59 [#01490627]
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shields up

there are several port scans on there.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-02-07 15:00 [#01490629]
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or here maybe


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-02-07 15:05 [#01490642]
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I didn´t know about this!
everything seem to be ok

thanks


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-07 15:05 [#01490644]
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EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE OK

...that's what they want you to think


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-07 15:11 [#01490659]
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that's why i'm asking for online firewall tests. there's no
point in relying on the scan which is provided by the same
copmany as your firewall.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-07 15:19 [#01490669]
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looks like a good one, cheers for that


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-02-07 15:19 [#01490670]
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Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
All attempts to get any information from your
computer have FAILED. (This is very uncommon for a
Windows networking-based PC.
) Relative to
vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer
appears to be VERY SECURE since it is NOT exposing
ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking protocol over the
Internet.

Hmm. Should i belive this?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-02-07 15:21 [#01490674]
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grc is ace...I have used it for years, loads of good stuff
on the site.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-02-07 15:23 [#01490677]
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Yes, that message has been there for years, before people
really starting using firewalls as commonplace. It as
something stupid like 90% of the PC's connected to this
internet prior to deployment of service pack 2 were running
without a firewall. Netbios was also generally enabled by
default. That particular well done message has less
relavence these days.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-07 15:25 [#01490684]
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do you know what port 1025 is used for? and why it should be
open? and why it keeps getting scanned by my isp?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-02-07 15:29 [#01490691]
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1025 is the RPC call. It was used by viruses such as
MSBlast I think...The ISP is probably just checking to make
sure people don't have it open. They routinely check a
number of ports such as those used for mail relay, open
proxies etc...then they get in touch with you if you are at
risk/breaking rules.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-02-07 15:30 [#01490693]
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It shouldn't be open though? What firewall are you using?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-07 15:33 [#01490696]
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sygate. i am running emule though but i don't think it's
using that port.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-02-07 15:34 [#01490701]
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Are you behind a router as well?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-07 15:34 [#01490702]
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i got the same stuff... are you on some university-net too?


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2005-02-07 15:35 [#01490703]
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There's also an online nmap port scan. Be sure to click
'ignore pingability'. This isn't quite as userfriendly as
shields up! but can possibly give more info.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-07 15:37 [#01490706]
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port 1026 is open now but 1025 isn't. unless i made a
mistake before. but i don't think i did.


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-02-07 15:37 [#01490707]
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Ping Reply: RECEIVED (FAILED) — Your system REPLIED to our
Ping (ICMP Echo) requests, making it visible on the
Internet. Most personal firewalls can be configured to
block, drop, and ignore such ping requests in order to
better hide systems from hackers. This is highly recommended
since "Ping" is among the oldest and most common methods
used to locate systems prior to further exploitation.

IS THIS BAD?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-07 15:39 [#01490710]
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sorted it. it's my stupid printer agent. i'll get rid of it.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2005-02-07 15:40 [#01490713]
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Blocking ping is relying on security through obscurity.
There's no harm in blocking ping, but blocking it doesn't
really increase your computer's security.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-07 15:44 [#01490720]
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But YOUR computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND
(that's very cool!)

That made me giggle.


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-02-07 15:46 [#01490723]
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that's cool.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-07 15:46 [#01490724]
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I'll try and work out what all that means :P


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-07 15:47 [#01490725]
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NO !

that's very cool!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-07 15:47 [#01490727]
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Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not
a single packet — solicited or otherwise — was received
from your system as a result of our security probing tests.
Your system ignored and refused to reply to repeated Pings
(ICMP Echo Requests). From the standpoint of the passing
probes of any hacker, this machine does not exist on the
Internet. Some questionable personal security systems expose
their users by attempting to "counter-probe the prober",
thus revealing themselves. But your system wisely remained
silent in every way. Very nice.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-08 19:53 [#01492270]
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ok its me again

is there any reason any windows system files need to be
filtered in a firewall? for example, com services, kernel
etc


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-02-08 19:57 [#01492276]
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Yes, there are a lot of loopback services which access the
maching through the local network (your box) These will
still be filtered by the firewall (I take it you mean stuff
like COM Surrogate stuff etc.?)

General rule of thumb is deny everything unless you start
noticing it affecting the performance of the PC in some way.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-08 19:59 [#01492281]
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eg kernel32.dll


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-02-08 20:01 [#01492284]
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Yeah its normal...it all depends on what programs and
services you are running. Just deny everything access as I
say, it doesn't normally make any difference to the PC.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-02-08 20:04 [#01492289]
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that could be windows update... i believe.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-08 20:04 [#01492290]
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i run a tight ship! cluttered systray = bollocks.

what about port scans? i'm getting a lot of them of which
the IP is very similar (but not identical) to mine. do you
think this is just the ISP software checking the connection
every now and again?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-08 20:05 [#01492292]
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i have NO updates that run without me first asking them to.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-02-08 20:08 [#01492298]
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block it then.

winders has all types of processes that run in the
background. some of them try to use the internet. if
keeping them from sending secret info about you back to
microsoft doesn't break anything, then it probably didn't
really need to be sent.

lee is the man.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-08 20:16 [#01492305]
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yes, but i'd like to know why certain system files need
internet access, if at all.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-02-08 20:30 [#01492324]
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i suppose you've run virus/spyware scans and the like?

i think (although i'm somwhat talking out of my ass) that
kernel32.dll is the main windows process that controls the
execution of all other applications.

even though you've told windows not to check for updates,
that process may still be trying to get and/or send
information to and from microsoft... for what reason? who
knows. microsoft doesn't have to say... read the EULA to
the opperating system. when you install it you give them
the right to collect certain info.


 


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