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offline sneakattack on 2005-01-30 22:25 [#01482447]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker



your comment on my induction was incorrect by the way. I
don't have to use a different index for the induction than
the theorem utilizes. Furthermore the bounds you gave were
ass.

a thread just for you.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-30 22:29 [#01482449]
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when you're trying to prove induction on n, you can't use
the variable n in your inductive step, thats like ignoring
scope while coding
thanks for being angry about it though


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-30 22:40 [#01482451]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to bryce_berny: #01482449



what?! coding was the wrong example to bring up. When you
have an identical variable name in a nested scope, that
usage shadows the one above.

It's pretty standard to do induction that way.

For example

Thm: for all n in Z^+, (a - b) | (a^n - b ^ n)

proof by induction on n.

.. base cases..

inductive hypothesis: theorem holds for a given n
inductive step: proves n + 1 works using IH

..


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-30 22:41 [#01482452]
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I'm not angry about it, simply it's good to be accurate
about formal languages. I think there is no ambiguity in
using the same variable, and moreover it binds the index
clearly to what it is in the theorem.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-30 22:46 [#01482453]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker | Followup to sneakattack: #01482452



I have always been taught to use a new variable, say i, and
prove for i+1 when using simple induction, or introduce i
and j and prove for somethinginduction
I believe it's important, but if you don't think so, thats
also fine
I was just trying to be smart is all, ppl have to do that
sometimes


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-30 22:48 [#01482454]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to bryce_berny: #01482453



I think it's very clean because the index obviously has the
same domain as the variable you're doing induction over, so
step by step you prove the validity of the variable for that
value in the domain. It's that correspondence which I find
sweet. I don't see it as aiding clarity to make them
separate, because I view them as identical.

I might read this thread in one year and think "I'm a
fucking idiot"

sorry I love this kind of debate, I hope you like it too.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-30 22:48 [#01482455]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker | Followup to bryce_berny: #01482453



sorry, thats something < i < j, prove for j ... damn tags



 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-30 22:49 [#01482456]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker



Yea I am initerested in mathematical syntax debates for
sure, this debate could get heavily involved in set theory
if you wanted to go there, but I don't know much about it so
I wouldnt have very good arguments



 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-30 22:57 [#01482459]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to bryce_berny: #01482456



let's talk about tits some time too. I started agonizing
over bitches recently; it's awful.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-30 23:03 [#01482465]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker



man I love a good pair of tits, a natty 36C makes me quiver
with delight



 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-30 23:13 [#01482468]
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I feel sorry for big tits (some C and all of D). They have
glory for 5 years and are a burden thereafter. While
fucking up that sentence I went through a succession of
important female characteristics and somehow came to the
conclusion that we need robotic concubines. the end.


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-01-31 05:32 [#01482619]
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hello :)


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-31 22:45 [#01483756]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker



Bump for baron. I don't think she's as bored as I am.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-31 22:45 [#01483757]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker



OH SHIT I BUMPED THE WRONG THREAD. I AM DICKLESS,
MANGINALESS


 

offline xf from Australia on 2005-01-31 23:20 [#01483774]
Points: 2952 Status: Lurker



how the fuck do you go from having a mathematical debate to
discussing tits?


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-31 23:58 [#01483780]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to xf: #01483774



how the fuck do you bring up a mathematical debate after one
day of silence on the topic, and without any goal other than
socialization?

boredom.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2005-02-01 00:03 [#01483782]
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score:

sneak attack - 1

xf - 0


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-02-01 00:09 [#01483786]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker



bewwp!



 

offline sneakattack on 2005-02-01 00:11 [#01483788]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to bryce_berny: #01483786



Given the definition of 'breathalizer', I think all males
implicitly have a 'breastalizer' function. Immmm stupid!
gnight.


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-02-01 00:14 [#01483791]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker



mmm


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-02-01 01:37 [#01483848]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker



Breasts!!!!1


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-02-01 01:37 [#01483849]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to sneakattack: #01483848



quiet, you.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-02-01 01:38 [#01483850]
Points: 6049 Status: Lurker



No. No breasts =(


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-02-01 01:49 [#01483864]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to sneakattack: #01483850



4am, 3624 posts, class tomorrow, retarded!


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-02-01 02:07 [#01483872]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker



I have an assignment due tomorrow, time to stay up all night
working on it
toot toot


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-02-01 04:07 [#01483968]
Points: 1568 Status: Lurker



I broke 1000 points in 3 years last night!

GO ME!

love,
me


 


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