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Autechre - "Our music works at different levels....."
 

offline uzim on 2005-01-29 06:30 [#01480465]
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(...quote attached as image below...)

what do you think of this? agree? disagree?
do you think Autechre's music changes from listen to listen
and some other musics don't, or vice-versa? does music
always do the same effect to you? does music never do the
same effect to you?


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offline welt on 2005-01-29 06:36 [#01480472]
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confield sounds different / has a different effect everytime
i listen to it. ep7 or amber always sound the same.


 

offline welt on 2005-01-29 06:38 [#01480476]
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confield always sounds different because it is that
abstract. it refers to nothing, so the listener is thrown
back upon his self.


 

offline xceque on 2005-01-29 06:39 [#01480478]
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I've got loads of music that I loved instantly and went off,
loads that I loved instantly and never get bored of, loads
that I didn't like much at first but which grew on me until
I did love it. I guess it all depends on the music and the
listener.

I've not got so much that I disliked at first and never got
to like. Although I've sold a few of those, maybe that means
that if you buy something and want to like it, eventually
you can make yourself like it.

Also I've noticed that quite often electronic musicians
don't have much hair.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-01-29 06:39 [#01480479]
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i guess what the quote is getting at is the idea of having a
number of focal points (rhythms?) in a single recording that
overlay


 

offline welt on 2005-01-29 06:39 [#01480480]
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i mean himself.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-01-29 06:42 [#01480482]
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thats got to be a tricky thing to pull off as were trained
to appreciate agreeable components. but you could say that a
multi tiered focus reflects more 'natural' circumstances,
perhaps the sound of traffic mixed with trees and birds.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-29 06:45 [#01480485]
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i think at times ae's stuff works as hip hop, other times it
works as ambient and other times as..., but i think the
different levels they are talking about are in an abstract
sense, without getting to involved it can function as
architecture, or as sound manipulation, or as emotion etc...
- get what i am saying? i relate ae's work to the iteas of
abstract impressionism, and without calling it abstract
music.


 

offline uzim on 2005-01-29 06:46 [#01480487]
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it does sound different to me depending on my mood, but it's
often a difference between "cold and boring technical wank",
"cold and annoying/agressive, turn that shit off man", "meh
: | does nothing to me", "yeah, interesting - won't listen
to the whole album though" and "whoa, trippy!".

the rare moments where i find it trippy (i.e. where i really
enjoy it) might be different each listen but they're too
rare for me to compare really...


 

offline uzim on 2005-01-29 06:47 [#01480488]
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...when they happen they're really interesting and good
though.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2005-01-29 06:49 [#01480489]
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open ended interpretation .. forms are sensed when elements
are juxtaposed


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-29 06:55 [#01480493]
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but all music works like this for me, not just ae's - i
think at its best - music is abstract - it can completely
take on a whole other meaning than the one it is presented
in, it is purely interpretive and takes on different
meanings from one listener to the next. it serves different
functions to each listener, even the artist who created it
can see it in different ways at times - people might say
"pop music is boring" but at times it might be interpreted
differently or experienced on some other level that is not
so boring for the listener. its when that art becomes
propaganda that i think it gets boring after a bit.


 

offline uzim on 2005-01-29 06:56 [#01480494]
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i agree.


 

offline zkreso from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2005-01-29 07:12 [#01480510]
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I think that nearly all music without lyrics is open to at
least a couple of different interpretations.


 

offline OK on 2005-01-30 01:46 [#01481582]
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ANY piece of music works of different levels. that's the
beauty of this art I love.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2005-01-30 03:24 [#01481602]
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It seems each LP marks a different segment throughout the
history of Autechre's works. Perhaps this sort of change
keeps me interested in their new releases, in that I don't
know exactly what to expect, as far as attributes of the
sound are regarded. Of course, this works similarly of any
artist. However, while some artists seem to maintain static
techniques, and others tend to experiment with new methods
and then revert back to their conventional ones, Autechre
seem to have a steady line of change throughout their
works.

Not sure if this makes much sense to anyone else..


 

offline SPD from United States on 2005-01-30 04:46 [#01481636]
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we were there the night (actually the day) this picture was
taken. thats against the wall at the El Rey Theatre in LA. i
remember him wearing the Planet E 69 shirt that night too.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-01-30 05:11 [#01481653]
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their music does get boring after a bit


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-30 05:16 [#01481655]
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I didnt like ep7 when I first heard it, I thought it was
just complicated nonsense
but I was just listening to it at a glance, when I actually
took some time to give'r with it, I liked it a lot

and pachi, I know exactly what you're saying, each album
seems like the same mixture of the one before it and the one
after it, its a very perfect progression


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-30 10:30 [#01481820]
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Their music does work on different levels. I just tested
it.

First of all I listened to it on the ground floor, and it
worked. Then I climbed half way up the stairs and it still
worked, then on the first floor and it worked there too.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-30 10:50 [#01481848]
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yeah i tried playin ae in oz which is upside down and that
worked


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-30 10:54 [#01481854]
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So not only does it work on many levels it even works upside
down? Autechre truely are the greatest.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-30 10:59 [#01481865]
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joy,bet they work under water as well


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-30 11:02 [#01481870]
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This topic and that magazine article needs to be changed to
"Our music works at different levels, upside down and
possible underwater..."

I will write to the publishers and get them to reissue that
issue with the amendments made.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-01-30 11:02 [#01481871]
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i really don't need a musician to tell me what i get out of
their music


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2005-01-30 11:03 [#01481872]
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usually after the first listen, with the exception of a few
gems.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-30 11:04 [#01481873]
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I always have one on stand-by. just in case.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-30 11:13 [#01481890]
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it can be bad to read into what autechre say about their
music.

one reads the info and can really only decode based upon
what one already knows about the creation process (which is
very, very little) and you just are sort of stuck.

i mean, besides the fact that they use a sequencer, there's
little that you know about the creation process, how the
sounds are produced, and etc. it's bad to really read into
what they say because it will take you nowhere unless you
actually flip open one of their laptops and see what's going
on.

the idm/braindance/smart-electronica community is based on
this. the 'mystery' of the music that the artists
inadvertenly create.



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-30 11:15 [#01481892]
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also, it doesn't help much to just spew out one quote,
without any context.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-30 11:19 [#01481901]
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qrter> hahah yeah that too

but when you think about it, if the
idm/braindance/smart-tronica community really had 100%
knowledge of how the artists make their music, like, if
there was a webpage that had detailed graphs of how each
song is composed, how each sound is synthesized, then there
would be no community. at least not on the internet. well
the artists wouldn't get much praise. the album would come
out, everyone would trickle over it for a few weeks, and
then come the questions: "so when are the graphs for X song
coming out? have autechre released those graphs yet? i want
to know how they made this sound, how they manipulated X
function, etc." and it would just be fucking stupid


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-30 11:36 [#01481920]
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This is the stupidest, most pretentious quote ever; I hope
they didn't say it willingly (tortured?). By nature of the
human brain, everything is interpreted at multiple levels,
and similarly multiple levels of meaning embed themselves in
any communication. Oh god this quote makes me want to kill
people. ok shower time.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-01-30 12:48 [#01481980]
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Wow, that Ohtechre is nearly as intellectual as
Radionhead



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-30 12:51 [#01481981]
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your current avatar looks a bit like Thom Yorke.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-30 12:53 [#01481982]
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aoffefrfre awe goffs!


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offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2005-01-30 12:55 [#01481983]
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Tooth ache?


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-30 13:05 [#01481989]
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azumanga daioh!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-30 13:07 [#01481990]
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Yes, I would rather hear them say other things such as
"Manuel Cuddington enjoys lemons" and "Three species of
serpents are used as currency in Equatorial Guinea".


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-30 13:12 [#01481992]
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yeah goths have that effect on my speech


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2005-01-30 13:22 [#01481994]
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So dayo!


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-30 13:25 [#01481997]
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wakarimashita


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2005-01-30 13:35 [#01482003]
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Hehe

Boku wa Kansai-ben o benkyou shitai.


 


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