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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 16:43 [#00082263]
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There are so many people who seem to be rehashing the same ideas, there are almost a limitless supply of Autechre and AFX clones, and while the people copying may be very good, its not really taking music in a new direction. The only person I can think of that seems ot be really pushing it is Amon Tobin, (and to a lesser extent BoC are doing their own thing) I suppose that quality in itself creates change, but I feel like I would like to see new methods of working with sound (while not falling into the hole of 'abstract' crap) Well, what do you think.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 16:45 [#00082268]
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Oh, and if you know of some artists that are doing new stuff be sure to mention them so we can all check them out :)
Someone else who is very good is Jan Jelinek, sort of taking Pole a step further.
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2002-02-07 16:48 [#00082277]
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flanger are good if your into that glitch type stuff.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-07 16:49 [#00082279]
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Add N to (x) do some interesting thing if you like mooging
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 16:52 [#00082282]
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Yeah add N to (x) is ok, Flanger doesnt do much for me. Maybe just a matter of taste. Have you guys heard the Avalanches CD? Since I left You? Thats doing something new, thats what im talking about.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 16:55 [#00082288]
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Amon and BOC are the greatest right now (along the holy trinity) im glad you mention them.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 16:56 [#00082290]
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Im feelin some of CEXs tracks too, im glad hes making a hip hop album :)
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-07 16:58 [#00082293]
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Taoist Blockade Did you see Add N to (X) when they came to town in the summer?
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 16:59 [#00082295]
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Yeah Amon Tobin is in my opinion making some of the absolute best music these days from ANY genre. BoC is still my favorite, but I think Amon has more brilliance. Archrival I think you and I must have pretty similar taste, I noticed you were listening to Cannibal Ox earlier. They were in Seattle last weekend with Aesop Rock and I almost drove down to see them but I was sick.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 17:00 [#00082296]
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No I missed them, how was it?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-07 17:03 [#00082298]
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Good, apart from a drunk guy pushing over the keyboards!!! They played a really hard set. I think it is a Vancouver thing because Tricky played really hard too!
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-07 17:04 [#00082299]
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oval, microstoria (aka markus pop) is pretty out there-i love his stuff dead crunchy and subtle-mouse on mars? 'intrumentals-fantastic. bundy k brown (directions in music) and of course john mcintre of tortoise fame. i
also think nobuku takemura's work is lush as well-kid 606?
any takers?
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 17:05 [#00082301]
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Did you see Autechre? I cant believe I missed that, I almost threw up. Then I went to see Squarepusher and Plaid and Squarepusher was sick wtf... So I got to see Plaid play a weak ass set. Mira Calix was DJing some wicked stuff though.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 17:07 [#00082306]
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YEAH! Mouse on Mars kicks ass, thats what im talking about! they have a sound all their own. I saw them live and they were amazing. Tortoise is also great. Prefuse 73 is also doing interesting things. Ill be checking Oval Ken, good suggestions.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 17:11 [#00082312]
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THIS IS SILLY WE got exactly the same TASTE!
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-02-07 17:12 [#00082313]
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Venetian Snares is taking it to a whole new level....(now how to classify that level,well its tough)
Otherwise Tobin has my vote....
Hey Arch, when you say "holy trinity"...I am pretty sure I know which 3 you mean....We are on the same wave length my man.....I 110% agree...(if I am right)
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nacmat
on 2002-02-07 17:49 [#00082366]
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what trinity you talk about? mine is: afx ae squarepusher
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:13 [#00082414]
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Oooh shit Nacmat!!!! WE ARE SOULbrothers LOL ;)
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:15 [#00082421]
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We are on exactly the same wave length :)
Nah lets get serious.....I think AE, AFX and Tom are in a league of their own.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 18:15 [#00082424]
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The holiest of holies for me would have to be:
1.Boards of Canada 2.Amon Tobin 3.Godspeed You Black Emperor
Then in no particular order:
4.Silver MT. Zion 5.Cannibal Ox 6.Prefuse 73 7.Autechre 8.Jan Jelinek 9.Do Make Say Think 10.Mouse On Mars 11.Bonobo 12.Mogwai 13.Thievery Corporation 14.Mum
Thats what ive been listening to lately anyway.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:16 [#00082426]
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I mean look at their back catalouge..pretty impressive huh
There is a lot of good stuff coming from people like Prefuse tho.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 18:17 [#00082428]
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Hey Arch list some stuff you've been listening to, we seem to like the same stuff so maybe you know some artists I havent heard yet.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:17 [#00082429]
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Taoist should I chek Jan JElinek? What kinda style is it?
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nacmat
on 2002-02-07 18:18 [#00082431]
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well apart from them... which is that trinity of yours then
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:18 [#00082432]
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Ok wait two sec
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:19 [#00082437]
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BOC, TOBIN and hmmmmm Wagon Christ maybe
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 18:20 [#00082440]
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Jan Jelinek is sort of minimal, kind of like Pole but way funkier. Worth checking out, most people who like it reeeeally like it. Ive been finding it a bit addictive.
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nacmat
on 2002-02-07 18:21 [#00082446]
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ok I forgot boc and plaid and for me dj shadow
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-07 18:21 [#00082447]
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Luke Vibert always pulls something new out of the bag
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:22 [#00082448]
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I love Mogwai, Sigur Ros, Mum, Mouse On Mars, Cannibal Ox etc but I havent heard about the other stuff that you mentioned.
I better check more of Bonobos stuff, I really liked his remix of "Four ton Mantis" have you heard that one?
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 18:23 [#00082450]
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Is Luke vibert really that good? I heard some stuff by him and while it wasnt bad it just seemed.... I dont know, like it wasnt travelling over any new ground. Can you recommend some tracks?
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:24 [#00082451]
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Ooh Forgot DJ Shadwo hes nice.
I writing a long list right now, just wait...
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 18:25 [#00082454]
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Yeah bonobo is pretty awesome, not exactly out there in any way, but good for relaxing or reading or whatever. I would put him in the same feeling as Thievery Corporation.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:30 [#00082463]
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Hrvatski, Blackalicous, Global Goon, Brothomstates, Zion I, Deltron 3030, Anti Pop Consortium, Anticon, Sage Francis, Ovuca, Smut Peddlers, Divine Perplex, DJ Spooky, Portishead, Hexstatic, Cex......
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:33 [#00082469]
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Im listening to Jan Jelinek - "Rock in the video age" right now.
Pretty chillout stuff
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 18:34 [#00082471]
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"Moire" very nice track indeed.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 18:35 [#00082473]
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WHats brothomstates like? ive been meaning to check it. Lots of stuff I dont know on that list. Thanks for posting it ill be checking it all out.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-07 18:36 [#00082478]
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listen to jan jelinek "do dekor" and "Gramm"
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-02-07 20:04 [#00082580]
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the cats that will/are taking it to another level, fresh for '02 (you suckas!):
boc dj shadow autechre (ep?) aphex twin (rephlex release?) automator neptunes timbaland del tha funkee homosapien (if he puts anything out this year it'll blow up based on the success of his guest rap on the gorillaz album... and this cat deserves it, i think he's the best lyricist out there right now)
the roots portishead blur (if they resume where they left off from 13 instead of pretending they never made that amazing album)
common (he has an electronica/rap hybrid album coming out in the next few months)
fsol lfo mos def outkast zack de la rocha (mark my words this album will be a classic)
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 20:28 [#00082614]
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I totally agree with Titsworth! all those artists will take it to another level
I got every album from those artists except LFO need to get some low freq oscillator stuff ;) and blur, dunno I really liked the Gorillaz album though. What is the name of the blur track with the nice video about that little milkman (I like that tune)?
Zacks debut will be produced by a lot of talented producers like DJ Premier, Roni Size, RZA etc.
Timba is dope (better than the neptunes imo).
FSOL new one will definitly be a hot one, love all their releases.
Me and Tits is also on the same vibe it seems :)
Im really lookin forward to Commons electronica album!!!
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Archrival
on 2002-02-07 20:30 [#00082616]
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BOCs new release is hot to death, it will be hard for these artists to make a better album, maybe DJ Shadow...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-02-07 20:35 [#00082619]
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"coffee & tv" which is the only radio friendly unit shifter on 13 (not that that makes it a bad song - i love it and played it on my show a week and a half ago). i highly recommend 13 - it's their only album of theirs i do and would ever own. very experimental.
zack's debut is gonna be deadly. he's on some violent synth crazy nasty drum 'n' bass type shit. from what i understand it he's going to be rapping about other things besides politics too, which will be a welcome change (even tho i agree with his politics).
i agree timb is better than the neptunes but sometimes the tunes top him off - check out the 2 songs they wrote for michael jackson that mike rejected: usher "i don't know" and babyface "there she goes". amazing.
i hope i can get really into the fsol album, i heard some of their new stuff on a radio session as well as the papua new guinea translations and although i admire them for changing the (electronica) game i didn't grab onto it immediately. i'll buy the cd when it drops tho.
as for common, there's also gonna be a lot of psychedelic / pink floyd type influences on the album. definitely looking forward to that one.
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