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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-19 15:54 [#01467401]
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Glowbulb Mastering
Glowbulb mastering: Offers electronic musicians a high quality mastering service, designed to
ensure that audio is optimized prior to it being pressed, released or put
forward as a professional demo. Mastering processes are used to increase the
perceived volume of audio whilst preserving crucial dynamics by applying
equalization, compression, and limiting.
Why Master? Mastering is the final stage in a project. It is designed to polish what is
already there. Mastered audio simply sounds better. It has volume, punch,
clarity and detail. Glowbulb mastering aims to contour the EQ and dynamics
to make it sound richer so that your final track has a professional
presence.
Glowbulb Mastering
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Wochtzchee
from Tallinn (Estonia) on 2005-01-19 16:40 [#01467449]
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everything which has lamps inside rocks
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-19 16:41 [#01467450]
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audible oddities
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-19 16:46 [#01467453]
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what i dont get is: what if the artist created a song that wasn't supposed to sound polished?
How do you know that some melody in the background is supposed to stay in the background? Do you work closely with artists?
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-19 17:05 [#01467471]
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then he wouldn't give it to mastering,like heiko laux does.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-19 17:08 [#01467475]
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I can't think of a single thing which has lamps inside rocks.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2005-01-19 17:18 [#01467490]
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i wouldnt give guys with that website to master my wankshot
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-19 17:25 [#01467503]
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valve compressors :)
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 00:54 [#01467743]
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yes - weatheredstoner you do work closely with the artist
polish - even a track with intentional low-fi / distorted elements can be polished - so the glitches and distortion ripple and punch more - getting a good eq balance so that the track works with the charateristics of the human ear and stimulates it are important.
plaster - hi shawn :)
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 02:08 [#01467784]
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if anyone wants to post up a snippet of unmastered audio here
(including unpolished - wanting to stay lo-fi material)
i will master it and post it back for you to hear....
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-01-20 02:19 [#01467792]
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im happy for you that you are good at mastering!! great
I make music and im not very good at mastering but but i rather take the time to practice and learn instead of sending of my tracks to someone else, i just think it's healthyer and better in the long run to take care of everything yourself.
And if you keep sending away all your albums to someone else to master them then you wont really learn how to do it it yourself very fast, and hell it would get expensive if you were going to send away every album you make.
Im sure your services rocks though and i hope you make very much money and get rich!!
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2005-01-20 02:26 [#01467800]
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http://www.taosm.net/vacant/01-drill4_-_wam_skeeter.mp3
there you go, master that. the bass is too insane when i play it on a stereo, the room shakes. fix me!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-20 02:32 [#01467809]
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Thanks for posting this. I may well use it if I ever get my ares in gear and finish my DnB 12"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-20 02:37 [#01467812]
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I'd be impressed if you do something good with this, it has quite a murky sound to it.
Also, I'd like to see some improvement this.
NB: I just want to see what you can do- I don't want to buy your services at this time- just tesitng the waters for future releases :)
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 03:06 [#01467832]
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Hi Vacant
Here is the master ::::
wam skeeter - master1
But this is where we would start a dialogue about the interpretation > i have taken away the rumble and tightened the bass end - you had too much power below 30 hz.... your track was quite squashed dynamically and i have tried to rectify that by re-introducing some dynamics around 3000 hz
it could be pushed a little harder but i think unpleasant limiting artifacts would be introduced....
compare this to the original and tell me what you think
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2005-01-20 03:25 [#01467843]
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well, thanks. i'm sure it fixes the problem, tho i can't test it on a stereo at the moment. it sort of loses its kick tho on these speakers. crappy computer speakers are what i had as reference while making the track so of course it'll sound good on those. hopefully when i test it on the stereo it'll have the kick but not too much like before. anyway thanks for your efforts, i'll be able to elaborate on how it performs over the weekend
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-01-20 03:50 [#01467848]
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it is less fuckloud from what i can hear, probably what you identify as lacking kick
ut there is improved clarity and way more dynamics, it give life to the track which was over-compressed before
if you could have a hand on that: lazy_old_track
only 128Kb/s and i don't remember how it sounds, but i'm sure it was mixed like shit because i remember my speakers from that era
and the mastering clearly was compensating for a lack of high and low-end...
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-01-20 05:07 [#01467968]
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bump for mister room... are you there ?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-20 05:11 [#01467972]
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If I was to use your services commercially, would it cost more/make for better mastering, if I provided you with a CD-r of each track that featured several seperate tracks (eg all the drums on one, all percussion on another, bassline as another and pads on another, as well as a "combined one" to show what it should all sound like on one track?)
I know in mastering you use filtering/eqs to pick out specific bits, but would the system I've described make your job easier/give better results?
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 05:21 [#01467980]
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hi folks
thanks for your interest
i'm engaged in another job till this afternoon > i'll post again then :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-20 06:27 [#01468052]
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Cool, this is in my favs. I'll check back later.
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 07:05 [#01468097]
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hi vacant
the tail end of the kick and the subbass have some overlapping frequencies.... basically the sub was mixed too loud originally.... if you feel the kick is too weak now - i would look at it again.... maybe employing some surgical eq to the mid part of the kick frequencies
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2005-01-20 07:09 [#01468103]
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basically i just want fairly deep bass but without shattering my stereo in the process, and perhaps what you've done has accomplished this... i'll check it out soon. i'm an absolute beginner when it comes to eq stuff
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2005-01-20 07:15 [#01468107]
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Hi room,
I would also be interested to hear what you can do to one of my older, unfinished tracks (which sounds pretty rough now that I have updated my sound gear). I actually ran a few mixdowns myself, but I could never get it how I really wanted it.
Anyway, its only an MP3 so I don't expect miracles, but if you can do something with it, then I would definately consider using you for the future..
Clicky
TIA
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 08:20 [#01468219]
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hi Ceri - good to hear from you
No the seperate tracks would not work - as that is the mix and that is very much the artists job/remit - it would probably give results that you may not want in terms of levels.... its artistic interpretation basically ::::
here is your original
original
which was mastered OK & here is my master (extract)
mastered CJ
p.s. because we are working with lower rate mp3's here than wavs some of the nicer nuances/dynamics cannot be fully developed
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 08:33 [#01468245]
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Hi E-man - the track sounds very squashed already with some unpleasant artifacts from over-limiting in there.... what were you hoping mastering could achieve? i feel the audio is damaged here - and it would be better to go back to another mix or what seems like a very good track
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 08:34 [#01468250]
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Brisk
page not found :(
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2005-01-20 08:38 [#01468263]
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Sorry, my mistake
www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/samples/last_day_unmastere d.mp3
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 09:00 [#01468299]
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hi brisk
waht audio characteristics are you hoping for from this master?
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 09:06 [#01468311]
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well here is a version with more impact and some nice tingling hi-end activity -
last day (mastered)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-20 09:08 [#01468313]
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Hi Room,
RE: Multi-tracking. Ah, I like to work that way when remixing, I thought it might be the same mastering.
RE: Bitrate. Yes, listening to the original, I hardly recognised it. The track has quite a digitally distorted sound to it, but is still quite clean and precise in the high end. MP3ing it seems to have affected it quite badly, as other mb memebers with a copy of this on CD will probably agree ;-).
When you say, "which was mastered OK" do you mean it was already not too bad? To be honest, I couldn't hear much difference between the mastered and original versions, considering the differences I could see between the examples/previous users' mastered tracks.
Maybe I'm biased, based on it being my track. What do other people reckon of it?
Thanks.
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 09:14 [#01468319]
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Yeah mp3's don't bring out the best in audio
and yes the original was ok - i just worked the higher end nuances a bit and rolled off the low end below 33hz and added a little punch around 52hz + a touch of limiting
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2005-01-20 09:27 [#01468329]
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room: the sound is generally pleasent, but the left channel high-end strings become too distorted. i realise thats also a production problem (i didn't have the best string libraries back then ;) but it still doesn't occur on my own master.
blip
thats what i came up with after a few mixdowns. i basically want more punch, more presence on the high end, and as little actual distortion as possible. don't worry yourself about it though, and i appreciate your time and effort :)
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-01-20 09:55 [#01468375]
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i'm going to give you my tracks and after downloading the mastered versions i will say that i don't like them.
aren't you worried people will take advantage of this?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-20 10:05 [#01468393]
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Getting an mp3 to preview the mastered version isn't the same as getting a cd-r of it.
Also, if you ever did then sell the mastered version, it'd be easy for him to prove it was his mastering and that you'd broken the contract.
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 10:20 [#01468431]
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Brisk - was your master done from the wav // aiff file ?
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 10:21 [#01468434]
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fly - i post a high quality mp3 of nearly all the track ;)
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2005-01-20 10:31 [#01468462]
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Yes, I should have mentioned that. Using Izotope Ozone 3.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-20 11:40 [#01468583]
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how much do you take for mastering?
typical eq-ing,gating and maybe some compression just to give it dynamics.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-01-20 11:47 [#01468595]
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it says on his link...
Cost & payment? The charge for this service is £15 per track or £150 for an album
(whichever amount is less). A range of payment options are available
including paypal.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-20 11:49 [#01468600]
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that's actually for free...
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 12:50 [#01468679]
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whats for free plaster?
basically its a service.... at the affordable end of mastering.... ideal for demos, cd-r releases and CD releases for projects that need a quality and affordable solution....
if you need to try the service ... i'm happy to work with you...
and to be honest ... thsi working of mp3's well it gives you an idea - but the audio has already been bit-reduced and compressed so any subsequent 'mastering' usually only accentuates some of the more annoying features of the mp3 compression....
anyone who wants to check out the service for real... send me a wav / aiff audio file and we'll discuss your needs
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-01-20 12:52 [#01468683]
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sounds like a fookin swizz tae me mucker, but good luck with yer venture anyways
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-20 12:55 [#01468690]
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yea,mp3's are not a medium for mastering...yes,i would like to see what you have to offer!
umm,do you have soulseek or msn messenger?
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 13:34 [#01468724]
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yeah i have soulseek
but it seems to be down at the moment
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 13:36 [#01468727]
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nope my mistake - its up
yes i'm there
look for 'room'
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