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What does everyone think of hearing preset sounds in songs? If the song is good... its good, right? |
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depends on what you think is good music. for electronic music, I do like to hear interesting sounddesign. most synths sounds awful to me, for example. |
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I think they're lush |
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Sample libraries and presets tend to sound really fucking bad, at least to my ears. If you're going to make music, i think it sounds a lot more interesting to make your own sounds from your own sources. Or at least mess around with other people's sounds until they sound like "yours". Jesus, the word "preset" actually produces a physical, bodily reaction of distaste in me. I'm such a snob. |
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on the other hand, if it's a guitar band, for example, I don't mind the guitarsound. the focus then goes more to the composition, although if you then do something interesting to the guitarsound itself it's a big bonus. the thing with electronic music is that you basically have, more or less, complete freedom - so to me it's disappointing if you don't do something with it. not to say I don't appreciate a good BoC-melody, but there you go. |
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I donno. I used to hate people who used presets. Then I started hearing some amazing music that obviously use presets from reaktor, and a bunch of other synths that I use, and the songs were amazing, so I changed my mind. Good music is good music, reguardless of when or how it was made. |
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sadly, a lot of why some music is good or bad is exactly HOW it was made.. |
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i agree, if it's good, it's good. i think sound design is definitely a part of that. however you can spend 20 hours designing an awesome click sound, but that sound by itself ain't a great song. most people will not be able to appreciate the hard work and technical mastery that went in to it. it's like, if you eat all the right foods to lay the perfect shit. i doubt even your closest friends will want to keep a piece of it! |
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I think what's most important is if you put enough effort in your song to give it your own style. Then i don't think it matters as much what sounds are used. |
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Venus No.17 has sorta presetish sounds but it doesn't ruin the track at all. Sometimes I like to hear familiar sounds. It's like an inside joke between IDM artists, except there is no joke involved. |
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i like them at times. |
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seeing as most people seem to use a popsong-structure, it would help a lot if they spent more time on sounddesign. |
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beanstock |
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Everything is a tool and you shouldn't be a snob about using it if the chemistry works in your mix. There's no formula for creating magic that works everytime - it can happen with a VSTi preset, a toy whistle or a $15,000 modular setup. Some people are art hobos who want us to live in the gutter mixing our pigments out of cheap wine and tobacco juice, and there's a place for that too. |
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use them, but use them wisely... however, people judge music for lots of qualities that have nothing really to do with the music. sometimes the people who are obsessed with original sounds tend to neglect other aspects. if you ask your music to be judged, or put it in public for comment, be prepared to hear from the nitpicky listeners about how this or that synth sounds awful, or ultraserious comments about "sound design"... i'm pretty sure aphex used a keyboard preset or two on selected ambient works 2. and what is a piano but a preset sound? |
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I don't care - If I find a Preset I like I'll use it and maybe tweak it to be more in tune with me. Other times I'll just tweak all the knobs myself - currently, Triangle Synth is my favourite! I don't really use the presets on that one at all, it is too much fun twiddling knobs! |
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