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I heard about some guys who ahve made three albums or something just from silence taken at concerts, im doing an eassy for college and its called: "the call for silence" anyone got any good stuff? tak |
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no its called Using spaces in music |
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4'33'' by john cage |
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Simon and Garfunkel, and the Silencers are good starters for ten. |
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elysian fields - untitled from 'dreams that breathe your name' album. |
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Bad Sector / Sshe Retina Stimulants split has the first track called 'silence'. About 11 seconds only. |
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..which isn't about silence. |
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einstürzende neubauten - silence is sexy |
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beck said that silence was the only - perfect - sound. you could include that into your essay. |
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Hi qrter! |
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silence isn't really a sound though, is it? |
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probably depends on how you DEFINE sound and stuff. |
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it's like painter would paint nothing. would you call that a painting? |
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lol |
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hello mc_303. how are you doing? still in whatsitsname, Scotland? |
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if he paints nothing on a blank surface and exposes it. why not? it's the negative-version of a painting. |
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it's still not called a painting though!!!!!!!!!!! |
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yeah i`m still in scotland. i`m doing good thanks. i`ve just eaten a mozarella pizza and i bought a lap steel guitar. i`m also going to watch Passion of the Christ aswell. What are you up to chief? |
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if you put a blank page on an easel an expose it i bet some people would consider it a painting. john cage's 4'33 is considered music, too. even though it's composed of silence. |
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I'd definitely check out composers: Toru Takemitsu & Morton Feldman I'd recommend listening to Rothko Chapel by Feldman first, it's a favourite of mine. Also if it's simply about space and not silence you could include some Miles Davis. For example his solo on So What is very withdrawn compared to Coltrane's and Adderley's who fill up the sound a lot more, plus on bitches brew and in a silent way he uses a lot of space. |
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magic window is silent. well it is on my album, not sure about anyone elses. |
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the thing is that music is just sound right, so the point of 4'33 is that we're never truly working with a blank canvas to begin with... but you could make the same argument about painting too i suppose... ... in here i transcribed a pretty lengthy quote from a Taku Sugimoto interview by the wire... you might want to look into his works... and also Radu Malfatti... the two of them are just about the most silent performers i know of... |
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"passion of the christ", really? I'm okay, have to do some work for school, which I don't feel like doing, but there you go. funny thing is, I have a mozarella pizza waiting to be shoved into the oven.. scary.. I have a multitude of films to watch instead of doing homework. your choice is "the passion..", I think I'll be going for "hellraiser". :P or maybe "the stepford wives" (the seventies version). |
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"Anybody listening intently would have heard them: while nobody produces sound deliberately, there will nonetheless be sounds in the concert hall. It is these sounds, unpredictable and unintentional, that are to be regarded as constituting the music in this piece. The piece remains controversial to this day, and is seen as challenging the very definition of music." |
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That sounds like a right waste of money. |
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whose quote is this? john cage's? |
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no, it is about 4' 33", from wikipedia. |
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Hellraiser??? Interesting choice.. Do you like my new av? I`m the Male "Tragedy" haha |
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anything you don't like to listen to might seem a waste of money. |
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I once saw "hellraiser" when I was about 14 or 15, so it's a trip down memory-lane for me.. your avatar is scary. |
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aye it is a bit. i think i`ll change it.. |
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if you consider the accidental sounds that ermerge during a performance of 4'33 the music it's of course not the silence that makes the "song". but these sounds'd be like environmental-sounds. they weren't Composed. the term "painting" indicates a certain way how the visual has to be produced. a painting has to be painted. but music, if you consider 4'33 music, wouldn't have to be composed, but exists anyway. considering this you couldn't compare music and painting. |
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you guys should hear ... it's basically a recording taken from a festival that was held sort of outdoors (under a canopy, or something to that effect)... basically it's three improvisers, one of whom is Malfatti, playing relatively delicate, airy stuff, and you can hear the sound of rain hitting the performance space and also the sound of the plastic ceiling creaking in the ensuing heat... it's really bizarre stuff, i have to admit it took me many many listens to fully appreciate it (and it demands very quiet conditions), but the vibe that the whole thing gives off is pretty fascinating... plus Thomas Lehn's old-school synth stylings are real interesting... |
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that wasn't supposed to be addressed to just welt... but certainly him among others... |
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oh yeah, forgot to mention i'm sharing it on slsk, me=Phaetonn send me a message if yr interested... sorry about this unnecessary post chain. |
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Thanks alot guys. glad this reunited some people as well |
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the first 87364 tracks on that god auful album follow the leader by korn, and the last ohhhhh....... 90 tracks on broken |
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that was just a joke..... yes I have to explain my humor once again, but anyways, really.... matrix by ryoji ikeda has..... interesting usage of frequencies and lack of sound, which may be useful |
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