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im not too excited for the new ae, however i'll always welcome new music from the brazen electronic music gods. over on teh wattem i had a saying that went like this: "simetimes it's not about reinventing the wheel one more time, it's about putting a shiny rim on the wheel and watching it roll in style" ... so yeah, while i can understand the prototypical newschool AE-defender argument that goes "dude, [fuck you] it's art that you dont understand" and even the one that goes "dude, musical ARTISTS dont like doing the same thing over and over again, its all about evolution, growth, and progression as an artist" . i tend to retort that while those arguments technically hold merit, that still doesnt rationalize them completely losing focus on making music that still has a few conventions necessary to make their stuff, say, music as opposed to highly developed perpetuating noise.... like, take the push button objects remix...t groove is like the onramp, and when you're vibing with it, to me, you get more effect out of the variation and technically brilliant beatfuckery that goes on as the track rolls on. the draft lost me in that maybe only one track has any sort of a groove about it.. the music is still technically brilliant, however, it lacks soul... it doesnt have any grooves, rhythm, or anything that renders the track memorable to anyone other than some hardcore wannabe avant-garde autechre fan who tells themselves over and over and over and over that they love this shit. basically, i'll be OK w/draft 7.30 if it was a necessary technical-skill-building step towards making an absolutely smashing EP/LP that brings back some of the cool-factor that has been absent from most autechre music since, basically, 98-99 (with the exception of the very good 2nd peel sesh)... yeah in a word, autechre's "music" isn't very cool anymore. while it's amazingly astonishingly technical, its so fuckin technical and arsty that it cant be arsed to have any of the cool basic elements of electronic mus |
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do you expect us to read all that text? :) |
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hello jesus. I don't think they're music is that technical, first of all. Second I think there's enough richness in each album and such a ridiculously inexorable, determined progression from album to album that it's at least intellectually interesting to see where they will go next. oh btw too lazy to read everything you wrote. I'm not twitching backflips every 4 seconds due to excitement for it, but it's definitely just about as excited as I'll get about any release this year (except aphex.. and of course, a few other artists could meet this level of excitement from me..). |
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im not excited. sorry. |
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Autechres music isn't all that technical at all, and for the first time ever I think I will listen to this release before I purchase it. |
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I read up to "over on teh wattem". |
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a few things-- *you used 'prototypical' incorrectly *one of AE's most curious features is that they DO NOT reinvent the wheel--you can practically draw a straight line graph plotting their progress *I do think they get a little bit ahead of themselves these days at times; not really understanding why they are doing something and just doing it. I won't say technical because I am not seeing a mastery of certain skills being involved. *don't you get bored of music? how about them? You can't expect draft to follow some tired formula. and are you talking about surripere when mentioning a beat? do you turn it off after 5 minutes? *also, saying something "doesn't have soul" isn't a good statement to put in a long post as this; rather explain what you really mean (which you did afterwards with a formula, but it made you sound a little lame). poops. |
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sini? |
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autechre only gave me reasons to be excited about their new albums... never I was dissapointed by one of their releases they are the most solid act I know and probably the most abstract music I like aphex goes up and down... and when it is up its unreachable but its down many times lately autechre are always on top of the wave for my taste, so yes I am very excited draft was not a super step forwards in comparison with confield but still it was a diferent release and for me a great one I loved the old autechre but I much prefer the new autechre... I dont think they care only about the technical part... they are very intuitive I think... their music is very visceral I would say... I love it |
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It will be cool to hear more but i wouldnt say "excited" would be the word i would use. I look forward to hearing new music by them but i am not on the edge of my seat. |
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get sylvia in here, I want to taunt her sexually. |
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No, autechre does not give me wood anymore. |
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it fuckin' is and you fuckin' don't |
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you be nice to dollys! tsk tsk tsk :D |
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well we all exagerate when we use the word "excite" with music I guess.... I never have an erection really due to music |
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a profile view would answer that question in a matter of seconds. |
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"does (new) autechre get you excited anymore?" - it (still) does |
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TRUE: didn't know about autechre before coming here. |
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but i must admit i fully agree with your previous post |
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actually it was 0.002 seconds thanks for making me feel silly... really thanks there, good job ;) |
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only because i wuv ya nacho! |
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you're my favaourite panda pictures provider, thanx |
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again that big headed panda!! |
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i'm excited about the new autechre "it". i can't wait to buy it. i think their sound changed in a subtle way between confield and draft... i don't think those albums are very similar. they get cooler with every release. so It will be the coolest. |
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i totally listened to draft7.30 today at work, me likes it a lot we have heard the soft autechre, the gnarsh autechre now lets hear something a bit different autechre sean and rob "hi" |
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I demand this buttmonkey return to his own thread. Did he come here because watmm was temporarily down or something? would explain nacmat's presence and the 72 simultaneous users as well. |
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settle down fellow monkeybutt, watmm(ers) have thier place here, as we have our place there sure do like joyrex's information page new releases forum (when they is up) |
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I feel a dark presence in the force |
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i kinda agree with a lot of what mr. emessiah has to say... |
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when i first heard the news about ae's new lp from the man phobia, i was very exited, even more so when i first heard the news about analord - all comparisons aside, ae's music is magic to me, its all good, and i cannot see myself disliking anything they make - hell even the hafler trio stuff is good in the right mood, albeit relaxed. ae may lack soul or whatever, or so people say, but to me its just music, its not some technical audio research or whatever or some feat that in reaching that feat, it implies their music is brilliant - i just really like their stuff, so its again boils down to an argument about taste. |
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the new Autechre LP is the only music news that's gotten me truly excited since April of 2003. |
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people who only dig autechre because it sounds "artsty, technical" are fucking saps if you dig the music, then you dig it. you like it because you feel it. what the fuck does your respect level for their skills have to do with anything. if everyone used the same shit to make music, all of you people who are like this would finally shut up and get lives |
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i like confield and draft because i feel them. not because of the particular themes ofthe tracks, the way the tracks were made, or anything, i can fucking feel those fat tracks under my skin. you pricks who can only come out to say that it sounds "too random", like, youve figured out how they made the track, need to shut up |
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i agree with cygnus. I second him here. |
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sini, you should copy and paste your original post from wattem where this whole thing started; i've never heard it put better. |
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did anyone ever dance to autechre in the first place? sini, calling it noise just means you dont like it. just like when everyones granddads called the beatles noise. there are qualities to music that people other than you enjoy, that doesnt mean theyre posers. fucking a, you know what the most pretentious form of electronic music is? dance music. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DANCE TO ORGANIC MUSIC FOREVER. so because the drum machine got all popular some time after electronic music was created, everyone must keep some sort of danceable rhythmic soul? funny, i thought souls came from people, not perfectly quantized drum sounds. sini, you should perhaps find something fufilling in your life, all this hero worshipping cant be good for you. |
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hmmm maybe I should stop postponing the inevitable and actually get around to listening to Draft 7.30... |
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you ought to |
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i'm not at all excited. |
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ANALORD GET THIS SHIT OFF THE FRONT PAGE (after this bump of mine) |
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i remember going apeshit here on xlt the first time i heard draft in full. it was 4am or something after a night at the pub that i came home with a mates burn of the tape rip. i dont know what to expect this time around. draft was a lot stranger than confield to my ear. im hoping for something very far fetched :) |
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before i heard draft i considered ae to be one of the warp bands that i feeled compelled to listen to because everyone else here does, rather than liking them because of their music. (up to that point i had bought tri repetae, confield anvil vapre and atp3) but after hearing draft i cant wait for the next ae release. autechre keeps getting better and better. |
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