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           Jaser
             from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 13:42 [#01453452]
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           r40f
             from qrters tea party on 2005-01-11 13:43 [#01453456]
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i think it looks just like one of those personal alarms some  elderly people wear. 
 
  
         
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           elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-11 13:44 [#01453458]
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great for runners/joggers.
  i think it's great for the wide range of lineups they have
  something for everyone/application
 
  
         
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           pOgO
             from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-01-11 13:45 [#01453460]
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ooo skinny
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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i just hope it's cheaper then the previous versions..
 
  
         
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           hobbes
             from age on 2005-01-11 13:47 [#01453467]
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from 99$ silly!
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-01-11 13:49 [#01453469]
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yeah, but 512mb is a bit low for what i need.. :(
 
  
         
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           Raz0rBlade_uk
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It makes it sound like you can't actually choose your next  track. I think that could be a little annoying. 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-01-11 13:51 [#01453476]
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yeah, i've got that impression as well..i made a post about  it in that  new apples thread :) 
 
  
         
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           nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2005-01-11 13:52 [#01453478]
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im so gonna buy a mac mini
 
  
         
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           Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-01-11 13:57 [#01453485]
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ugly and uncomfortable earplugs!
 
  
         
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           hobbes
             from age on 2005-01-11 14:10 [#01453493]
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Yeah the whole idea is a bit weird.
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 14:13 [#01453496]
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i don't know, i thought that was weird at first but I think  you can select your own tracks... 
 
  
         
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           hobbes
             from age on 2005-01-11 14:20 [#01453509]
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hello pantalaimon!  :)
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 14:23 [#01453513]
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hi, 
  anyone figured out how you select your own track, surely its  not shuffle only 
 
  
         
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           uzim
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no, apparently it's not only shuffle, but it would be kinda  hard to select the mp3 you want with no screen... : ) 
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 14:38 [#01453534]
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you select the mode on the back...
  still not sure how you change albums
 
  
         
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           eXXailon
             from purgatory on 2005-01-11 14:46 [#01453541]
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it doesn't have a display, which is really shitty.
  also it looks like an ordinary USB-MP3 stick. 240 tracks on  1 GB? pff....on 32 Kbit maybe....
 
  $99 for a 512 MB MP3 player w/o display is a tad overpriced.
 
  
         
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           sneakattack
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No screen!  No recording, no wide selection of formats.   Granted what I bought was $50 more, but shit, look at the  iRiver flash players; slightly larger but same price and  wwaaaaay better features (though those can't be accessed as  USB drives).
 
  I'll bitch a lot about the iAudio U2 as soon as it comes in  the mail (ETA 1/17) 
 
  
         
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           Vin3islih
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I think it looks like a pile of crap myself.  The only  people who could possibly want this are joggers.  I happen  to jog and would still rather have the iPod mini as it at  least looks a bit more substantial.  I think this new Mini  Mini iPod is pointless and starting to saturate the iPod  range with unnecessary models.  First we have an overpriced  photo holder that has no video, the main redeeming feature  being it looks nice and now this, which doesn't.  I own a  40gb iPod btw. 
 
  
         
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           sneakattack
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Man, can you imagine navigating even 512 megs without a  screen?  Do you memorize your track list every time you  upload, or just have to seek a shitload? And it's definitely  not the smallest model. 
 
  
         
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           sneakattack
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of course it will stil sell 12381293 copies, just like the  rest of the piece of shit ipod line. 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-01-11 15:44 [#01453639]
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that is why they're promoting the shaffle thing.
 
  
         
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           stefano_azevedo
             from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-01-11 15:46 [#01453641]
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           weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-11 15:51 [#01453647]
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i agree with exxailon
 
  
         
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           sneakattack
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what a pain.  by the way did you notice that all the  pictures on the website where the unit is shown alone are  NOT photos, but computer renderings? what the fuck is up  with that?
 
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 16:06 [#01453671]
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i prefer the minimalist style of the ipod... though i'd like  it to have a screen, still, if you play random tracks its  ideal 
 
  
         
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           sneakattack
             on 2005-01-11 16:12 [#01453681]
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Well, what does minimalism mean?
  The original ipod had apretty good formula, a simple set of  buttons controlling all player functionality, and the design  matched this aesthetic.
 
  Here's the problem: this ipod shit is low on FEATURES as  well.
 
  Besides aren't you tired of this lame look?  And I don't  think it's minimalism. Minimalism would be intelligent use  of maybe one additional color, but this gay one color crap  looks shit to me. 
 
  
         
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           sneakattack
             on 2005-01-11 16:16 [#01453692]
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oh and since it's obvious the ipod line pisses me off, let  me explain way.  Simply from a technical standpoint they are  way behind, and from an aesthetic standpoint, some people  (like you) genuinely appreciate them but for the most part  it's just brainwashing.  And ipod isn't innovating on the  line at all, they are just raking in shitloads of cash  (don't tell me iPod photo was the work of geniuses). 
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 16:18 [#01453695]
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have you seen the price of the iaudio? its £10 more  expensive for the 256MB version when you can get the new  ipod with 1GB for £99. 
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 16:21 [#01453698]
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the iaudio 1GB is double the price of the ipod, the new ipod  is perfect the those who its targeted at imo.
 
  as for the ipod photo, i can't stand it... its just  completely pointless and overpriced, for a couple of hundred  more i could buy an ibook, the Mac mini is even cheaper than  the ipod photo! 
 
  
         
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           sneakattack
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damn it's pricey in england!
  I know the iaudio is more expensive, I just bought one =)   not at your prices thankfully.
 
  I shouldn't be using the iaudio as a benchmark, because it's  SERIOUSLY overpriced (I am getting it because it is mostly  covered as an xmas gift), but if you look at the iriver  line, for instance, they're not too pretty but  price/performance is way better, and the iaudio u2 is about  4 months old! 
 
  
         
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           Blicero
             from Ann Arbor, MI (United States) on 2005-01-11 16:31 [#01453713]
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i'd hit it.
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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i think i'll get the 20gb ipod in the end :(
 
  
         
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           i_x_ten
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from the site
  # Music capacity is based on 4 minutes per song and 128Kbps  AAC encoding.
  # Do not eat iPod shuffle. # Rechargeable batteries have a limited number of charge  cycles and may eventually need to be replaced. Battery life  and number of charge cycles vary by use and settings. See  www.apple.com/batteries for more information.
 
  ????? @ that second one....
 
  
         
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           clint
             from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-11 17:12 [#01453835]
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i just spotted that
  shit I am going to die now?
 
  
         
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           child810
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It's a joke on Apples spec page for the iPod Shuffle.
  I like the idea of just having an iPod that holds some tunes  and I can listen to playlists, shuffle. Plus the new iTunes  has a cool feature - each time you plug the iPod in it will  put different songs on it. Sort of a cool feature.
 
  I have a 20gb 3rd gen so I don't need one. But it seems like  a pretty good deal. I wouldn't mind one for when I go  mountain biking. 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-01-11 18:19 [#01453937]
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mountain biking is pretty much why i need an ipod  for...can't you go with your 20gb one?? 
 
  
         
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           r40f
             from qrters tea party on 2005-01-11 18:22 [#01453941]
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Do not eat iPod shuffle.
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           tolstoyed
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surely you mean souffle?
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-13 13:35 [#01456607]
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the 20GB ipod is hard drive based, meaning it doesn't take  kindly to bumps, it will skip and can even be damaged by  extreme movement like this.
 
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           weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-13 13:37 [#01456608]
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i'd be surprised if the 20gig skipped while bike riding.
 
  
         
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           i_x_ten
             from arsemuncher on 2005-01-13 13:38 [#01456613]
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if you do use it whilst riding your bike make sure you have  a hard case. they're not that strong when you fall off and  land on them.. :( 
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-13 13:41 [#01456617]
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not just bike riding, "mountain biking", this usually means  off road riding, not good for a hard drive... unless they  mean just riding around to the shops on a mountain bike in  which case of course it should be fine :) 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-01-13 13:42 [#01456621]
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well, i wouldn't do any extreme stuff when listening to  music, but thanks for the warning :) 
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-13 13:43 [#01456624]
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my ipod 40GB has skipped whilst jogging, a little annoying,  also its a little large for jogging... looking forward to  getting the new one.
 
  not that i don't like my 40GB ipod, each ipod is good for  different things, the ipod shuffle just meets my current  needs better, 
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-13 13:45 [#01456628]
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good, some people do though, i've heard of people  snowboarding with ipods :) 
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-01-13 13:47 [#01456638]
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well, snowboarding is hardly as rough as mountainbiking...in  my experience anyway :) 
 
  
         
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           pantalaimon
             from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-13 13:51 [#01456654]
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well depends how good you are i guess :)
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-01-13 13:54 [#01456666]
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not too good in either...but at least when snowboarding you  fall into snow :) 
 
  
         
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