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           Crocomire
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 ...YOU are an ASSHOLE. FUCK YOU.  because, no matter what kind of person you are otherwise,  you segregate yourself and the rest of your people from  humanity as a whole, and because you think yourself somehow  better than those who don't conform to your group, either  consciously or subconsciously in your mind. YOU ARE THE  SLIME OF HUMANITY. i don't care what name you call your  segregating. Blanket statements like this one can't apply to  racial groups, such as all blacks are this, or all whites  are that, but they sure can apply to religions as an idea  and the inevitable basic results they have. religious people  are THE MOST DANGEROUS, INHUMAN PEOPLE ON THE PLANET TODAY.  good day. 
 
  
         
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           epohs
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           oyvinto
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           Crocomire
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this goes for any religion on the planet. everyone of them  ASSHOLE MACHINES, turning assholes out with frightening  efficiency. 
 
  
         
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           mrgypsum
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yes, but is it the religion that makes them like this? or is  it just assholes, which if its B, assholes are the cause of  everything that can be bitched about, just look at the  analord fiasco, what a bunch of assholes 
 
  
         
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           hobbes
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Most extremists scare me. Crocomire as well.
 
  
         
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           hobbes
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and before you ask, no i'm not.
 
  
         
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           dariusgriffin
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           brokephones
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I will let this talk for me.
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
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it IS the religion that makes them like this. that is my  point. religions are evil. 
 
  
         
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i believe in the moral tenents of most religions, so it is  not them per se, its just the type of person you are trying  to mention 
 
  
         
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           brokephones
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Oh and if you are religious watch out because we're up to something.
 
  
         
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           mrgypsum
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how are religions evil? it is wrong to believe in the 10  commandments? i think thou shall not kill, is probably one  of the most correct things to believe in - its just assholes  that twist it all up 
 
  
         
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           plaidzebra
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i think you may be ready to become a discordian pope...
  but you'll have to get down off your fucking high horse to  get your papal certificate of authenticity... 
 
  
         
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           brokephones
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The problem is that religion motivates people to be good by  threatening them with damnation if they are not. They do not  motive people to be good for the sake of being good, but  rather to be good to save their own ass. 
 
  
         
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           010101
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...YOU are an ASSHOLE. FUCK YOU.  because, no matter what kind of person you are otherwise,  you segregate yourself and the rest of your people from  humanity as a whole, and because you think yourself somehow  
  better than those who don't conform to your group, either  consciously or subconsciously in your mind. YOU ARE THE  SLIME OF HUMANITY. i don't care what name you call your  segregating. Blanket statements like this one can't apply to  
  racial groups, such as all blacks are this, or all whites  are that, but they sure can apply to religions as an idea  and the inevitable basic results they have. religious people  
  are THE MOST DANGEROUS, INHUMAN PEOPLE ON THE PLANET TODAY.  
  good day
  that solves everything god bless you
 
  
         
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           Taxidermist
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Ignorance...
  You can be religious and be ignorant, and you can be an  athiest and be ignorant too. Anger always comes from the  same place within the person, and any negative emotion -  when misdirected and dealt with in an inapropriate manner -  almost always leads to disaster. Perhaps instead of bitching  about religion, you could find some better way to use your  engery.
 
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           mrgypsum
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the ideas behind religion are actually good in a sense, but  i do see what your saying, i just think that the religion  itself, that is the ideology, is not evil 
 
  
         
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           OK
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I that whole thing applies to you as well.
  Just look you say: "you think yourself somehow better than those who don't conform to your group, either consciously or subconsciously in your mind."
  but at the same time you're saying: "religious people are THE MOST DANGEROUS, INHUMAN PEOPLE ON THE PLANET TODAY.  "
  also "YOU ARE THE SLIME OF HUMANITY"  I assume you're not religious; then what you're saying is  people that are not not-religous are worse than U. 
 
  now look at the first quote.
  well, i guess you're an asshole too
 
 
  
         
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           Taxidermist
             from Black Grass on 2005-01-07 14:14 [#01449359]
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heh... I am a bishop... and I didn't need to pay for shit.  All I needed to do was coerce three old ladies to eat  hot-dogs and then go on the roller coaser. 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
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religions are more than just moral tenants though: the  belief that you need to obey the moral tenants to please a  deity, something larger than life and all powerful. THAT is  where religions run into trouble, because once you have  people fearing a deity, you can get them to do anything you  want. and once people believe they have a deity on their  side because of their moral behavior, it just gets weird,  they turn into assholes.
 
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           roygbivcore
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once this woman was waiting at a bus stop and she was  walking by and smiled and said hello and i said hello back  and she told me that god loves me and i said alright then
 
  and it made me feel good
  i dont know why youre so pissed off at religion, especially  on an idm board, but chill man. i know a few really  religious people and they're still awesome. my friend tim's  parents are both pastors i belive and theyre my favorite  parents around 
 
  
         
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           epohs
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yeah, the old guy who used to molest me in the park was  really sweet, and he was religious. 
 
  
         
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           mrgypsum
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very true, but not all religions are like this, they do try  to put a fear in you if you do not conform, but so does the  penal system, and basically any system uses fear as a means  to get people to not do something horrible, such as murder. 
 
  
         
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           plaidzebra
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obey the moral tenants!
  OBEY THE MORAL TENANTS!!!
 
 
  
         
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           mrgypsum
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you sloppy pickle remover!
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
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i don't care if i'm an asshole. i may be in your eyes.  that's fine. at least i don't segregate myself from others  like these religious assholes, i only segregate myself after  meeting a person and seeing if i like them or not. i try to  carry no baggage into the situation. sometimes i'm succesful  in carrying no baggage, sometimes not, but at least i don't  have a deity somewhere inside my head to be fearful of. 
 
  
         
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           plaidzebra
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coming up next...
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           dariusgriffin
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           mrgypsum
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           weatheredstoner
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Religion is shit.
  Most people who claim to practice 'religion' really have no  spirituality at all. 
 
  Atheism is a religion btw. Its just believing in the fact  that there is no God. 
 
  I'll respect the agnostic standpoint, which is the most  logical imo. 
 
  
         
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           mrgypsum
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i think the only real question is: morality -  do we need it?
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
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[quote]very true, but not all religions are like this, they  do try 
  to put a fear in you if you do not conform, but so does the  
  penal system, and basically any system uses fear as a means  
  to get people to not do something horrible, such as murder.  [/quote]
 
  but you've got to admit, there's a vast difference between  fearing The Man, and fearing some allpowerful superbeing  with all kinds of super powers, and even the wellfare of  your eternal soul. 
 
  
         
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People who believe in something that you don't. 
  Always arseholes. And stupid. Mega Stupid. And  probably evil and well uncool, too. 
 
  
         
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           mrgypsum
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again thats some asshole putting his spin on morality
 
  
         
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they are SO uncool, good call :)
 
  
         
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           weatheredstoner
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I should also state that I'm not agnostic nor do i fall  under the 'religious' category. I keep my beliefs to my self  (mostly). They are not to be forced on others. 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
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if everyone just kept their religiousness/spiritualness to  themselves, the world would be alot better. 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
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i think we need morality to be happy living with eachother.  but it should be born not out of a religion. 
 
  
         
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i find this thread to be intensely productive and  enlightening.  thanks to all the informed, intelligent posts  within this thread, i can now live my life more fully.  you  have all succeeded in bringing about your points in the best  way you possibly could, giving me something interesting to  read.  and for that, i thank you.
 
  no, no.  really.  thank YOU.
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
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i mean has anyone reading this board died yet? how do these  religious people know what lies beyond FOR A FACT. so they  should just shut up and let the rest of us EVOLVE. they can  stay stagnant in their dogma and eventually die and fall off  the tree of life. 
 
  
         
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would you like to borrow these?
 
 
 
  
         
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i'm not being sarcastic...  i appreciate you...
 
  
         
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           weatheredstoner
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whoops, here they are:
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           mrgypsum
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well you might be right, whatever works for you, like i said  i believe in nothing so i dont think we do, but they are  definetly not hurting anything 
 
  
         
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           scup_bucket
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at this jucture I'd like to just point out that all autechre  fans are stupid idiots and that they are the slime of the  earth and are assholes.  good day 
 
  
         
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